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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« on: July 29, 2011, 08:11:31 am »
yeah same. Just into advanced squat and deadlift. Intermediate presses. Sounds about right I guess.
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What about strength? Just calf raises or?
Wait a minute, the thing about this is, not only are my glutes not getting sore, but I don't feel it in my glutes at all during my squats or trap bar dead lifts or conventional dead lifts lol. And I am doing the DL's in a lower body dominant way, using my hips, etc..
Also adarq, I try to do my squats sitting back as much as I can.
Does this mean my glutes are not being worked out? I definitely feel it in my quads and hams on each rep, but don't feel shit on my glutes.
If youre sitting back and not getting the glutes engaged, youre probably over arching the low back, putting more stress on the hams and less on the glutes. Video of your squat would be the easiest way to tell.
If someone has an exaggerated lordodic curve could this be a recurring problem, engaging the glutes I mean? I've always had trouble activating the glutes on all the big lifts like old mate above and have a bit of an exaggerated curve happening. I remember after squatting for about 6 months I got accidentally hit a groove on one rep where my glutes really fired. Surprised the hell out of me!
Tried all the stretching etc but can't seem to get rid of it. I only get really good glute input when my torso is bolt upright, which it can't be in squats cause I have looong femurs. Pretty frustrating. I end up turning to hip thrusts etc to feel the glutes work but this is a band aid fix.
Sorry 4 the hijack.
yea that groove you hit was just likely closer to "neutral", and put the pelvis in a more optimal position for the glutes to fire.
One thing ive found that helps people in your situation is to actually contract the abdominals isometrically, but not allow the trunk to flex. It sounds strange but if you try it you can understand the position better. The contraction will keep an already exaggerated curve from being as big of a factor, and help you attain a slightly less "bowed" position in your lifts. This is one of the reasons its easier for most people to feel the glutes working during exercises like zercher squats vs traditional.
one thing that really helps is to use pauses at different spots in the lifts, for example pause briefly and hold at the bottom of the squat until you "feel" the glutes firing hard. Practice keeping the abdominals "tensed" without allowing the spine to flex and see if that doesnt solve your issue.
Wait a minute, the thing about this is, not only are my glutes not getting sore, but I don't feel it in my glutes at all during my squats or trap bar dead lifts or conventional dead lifts lol. And I am doing the DL's in a lower body dominant way, using my hips, etc..
Also adarq, I try to do my squats sitting back as much as I can.
Does this mean my glutes are not being worked out? I definitely feel it in my quads and hams on each rep, but don't feel shit on my glutes.
If youre sitting back and not getting the glutes engaged, youre probably over arching the low back, putting more stress on the hams and less on the glutes. Video of your squat would be the easiest way to tell.
i like them but i wouldn't go exclusive with them, actually using some partial pin bench presses in my training now...they do overload the nervous system a great deal though so you can't go silly on them
it depends if you need them, if your quick but weak then they would be good for you but if you're strong and slow then you're only strengthening something that is already strong while your weakness gets weaker
LBSS- explain?
I have not even been to CP's courses and I dont agree with his vertical jump recommendations (such as the vmo comments). I was just throwing this info out there to see what kind of response there was. It does make sense to me though.
I started at 27 and have more than doubled my SVJ. Although to be fair I was almost intentionally de-training SVJ type qualities by running long distance (20km plus) and being weak as fark (no strength training).
When I first read it I was like "oh man, this guy has a 54 inch vert!".