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Reading this book ^ .. Will be posting any interesting things I can find in it.

The author Fontanella says MJ gets a higher release point on his J by extending his legs (so they're straight) as well as pointing his toes down to the ground. This raises his Center of Mass higher, leading to a higher release point.

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Chris makes a good point about ingrained early habits, which I hadn't though of but agrees with my general impression of creative's post.

Creative's theory seems to fits the data very well, it matches up with intuition. But one thing i've learnt is that there are often many different theories which fit very well. Whether or not it's actually true is a different matter. If we had data for release trajectories for different players you could check if creative's theory agrees with the data. Just to make it clear, I am not disputing creative, I just don't know for sure. It certainly seems to agree with common sense but intuition can be wrong.

Btw chris, last night I watched a very long video [1] on shooting, and in it the coach says holding the ball in the fingertips is a mistake. He actually encourages his shooters to touch the ball with the whole hand for better stability and control. So like you said, it depends who taught you and how. But I can't help thing that there must be a 'natural' shooting form which if you're seeking it, must be unique for a given individual and body proportions.

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbd0vOqCOPo

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / w8,d2
« on: June 22, 2012, 09:03:22 am »
Training
SQ 6x95, 4x90
pickup ball
bp 3x6 78

Felt weak in the gym warming up, the last warmup set of 105x1 felt heavy, so i wasn't going to be able to hit 3x5 112.5kg. Which is just as well, because i'd been thinking of changing the friday workout to something else anyway.

I only went to play pickup ball today because i was hoping to spend some time playing ball with my friends who I wanted to make a new team with. I think now it's pretty clear that is a terrible idea. We have zero chemistry playing together, to the point where it just felt wrong to be on the court together at the same time. I basically felt out of place the whole time. I only had fun when at the end i picked two of the smallest scrubs to play with me for 3 vs 3  against my friends. And then I had a good game finally - hitting 2 jumpers, a three, and posting up 3 times against my friends who I wanted to show what they'd been missing by not involving me more during our earlier games. I can see being very frustrated with them if we were to play together in a proper full court game. But wait there is more.

In the midst of one of the chaotic pickup games, I was getting frustrated at being fouled by every single guy around me which I didn't call myself, but then they were calling the softest fouls themselves. At one point, I came down awkwardly and I felt my left ankle twist. It wasn't so bad that I was limping or anything like that - it just feels really tender now. So i think i managed to re-injure it playing a pointless pickup game. I told my friends this was the last time i'd ever play pickup, and i'll never come back there again to play against scrubs who carry, travel and foul too much, and even if they don't it's not competitive enough to make it worth being there and the chance of injury landing on some uncoordinated guy's foot is too high.

So no more basketball for the next few months. I'm just going to lay off my ankle and let it heal, and try to lose some fat in the mean time. If i can squat, i'll squat, but no balling or running until i'm confident it's 100% ok. i'll work on perfecting my shooting and ball handling (i realised today i depend too much on my left hand when being pressed with a double team) and try out for a good team around my area. And if it doesn't happen, that's ok too, lifes too short to stress about this stuff.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: June 21, 2012, 07:35:56 am »
Thank you Rix. Will take your advice and have a word with him and take it from there.

I just got back from shooting practice now. Would have liked to have video to review but it was too dark and my camera doesn't work very well in low light. Here is what I tried and how it worked out -

1. Tried having elbow very high making shooting arm almost vertical at the end of the shot. Result: The ball goes too high into the sky, i'm pretty sure that it's never going to be the right shot for me. I can see someone with short arms and of a smaller height shooting like that to get a good arc - but for me it just ends up with a comically high arc.

2. Then i adjusted my usual form by bringing the ball release to occur closer to my head and with a higher release point than usual. This actually felt pretty good. Arc felt like normal, didn't feel like it was skying the ball high. The ball drops softer too, which is good since you don't want to hit the rim too hard (if you hit the rim that is). I think my ideal form is closer to this, i still want to experiment a bit more tinkering with shot release.

So i think i've improved my shot some. I wish I had video to confirm it looks prettier but I will have to wait till practice under better light to have proof. Funnily enough I hit more shots from 3pt line than from inside. Would be interesting to look at the video and try to figure out why that is.

As far as basketball goes, a few good friends of mine might be putting together a team to play in the season starting end of august. That's plenty of time to lose these last few kilos and get in shape.

Bodyweight: 85.3kg

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / w8,d1
« on: June 20, 2012, 02:01:09 pm »
Training
SQ 3x6 103.5kg
BBall match

didn't get time to bench after the game, went out to have dinner with my friends and it got late.

Game sucked. My team mates played like pussies, not much more to say.

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okay, compare the text book

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euY_hdJc4nM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euY_hdJc4nM</a>

where there the elbow snaps violently upwards ending in an almost vertical arm

and durant at 01:29s

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhz_ZyMigI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhz_ZyMigI</a>

he does not snap his elbow.. he straightens his arm but it ends up being somewhere between horizontal and vertical to his body.

my footage from yesterday below

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56J2W8eP7g4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56J2W8eP7g4</a>

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saw your question yesterday about training w/a heavy basketball.  I know a few basketball trainers and coaches and I've seen them used to improve ball handling skills, develop soft hands for catching passes in traffic and to increase upper body stamina at the end of workouts via layup drills, tipping drills or Mikan drills but I've never seen anyone use it to improve shooting.  Personally, there's no way I'd use one for shooting because of the risk of it throwing off the mechanics of my shot.

Thank you. I need to work on all those areas so i'm going to make heavy use of the ball when it arrives. Ashamed to admit that I never learnt to do layups with my non-dexterous hand. Currently working on that and it's pretty awkward but i'm getting there.  Reading about the Mikan drill now while writing this post and damn that's exactly what I need.

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Wondering about the Double Bodyweight Squat Rule of Thumb (DBSRT) as a goal for guys wanting to improve their sprint and jump.

Take two guys

-  A. 5'9", solid build, weighing 80kg at ~12% bodyfat, he's build for lifting and quickly attains the double bw squat for reps.
-  B. 6'2", long limbs, slender build, weighing 80kg, 12% bodyfat, he's not build for lifting and struggles to squat 1.75*BW for a max.

It seems to me, that the rule of thumb doesn't do a good job distinguishing that the double goal is fairly easy for A but very difficult for B.  B needs to gain a lot more bodyweight before his max can even approach the weights which B is currently repping regularly for say 5x5. The rule doesn't take into account that A is very close to his maximum lean/athletic mass, while B is not and requires a lot more muscle to have better levers, but if he did gain the bw it might be a big tradeoff, costing athleticism.

Then you might have a guy C. 6'3", solid build, 100kg @ 12% who can squat fair in excess of both A and B, but you can expect that very few if any B's could become Cs.

Wondering if a better rule of thumb ought to be based on BMI rather than just BW.

As for myself, I'am struggling with even squatting 1.5BW for reps, leave alone even thinking about 2*BW any time in the next 18 months. It might not even possible for me to squat 2BW without gaining a lot of BW which would kill any dream of being athletic.



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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / w7,d3
« on: June 18, 2012, 09:50:23 am »
Training
SQ - 3x120kg (5 month best), 7x100kg (PR)
BP - 1x92.5kg (PR!), 10x70kg (PR!)
10x30m sprints (5 warmups, 5 recorded time - 83, 83, 78, 65, 86 - new PR - 04:65!!)

Psyched myself up to lift today even though my knees were complaining even getting out of bed and sitting up from a chair. I spend a bit of time warming up them carefully - then went for it. I realised if I didn't train today, I wouldn't lift again til wednesday, meaning a 4 day break, which is bad news since my lifts go down rapidly on layoff. In the end I was really happy with training today. It's not every day you get 3 PRs - feels good man.

Breaking my sprint PR from 4:95 which I could never break to consistently breaking it today is just awesome. If I was to say why it happened, it's because I tried to pump my arms hard, which i never used to do until today. I picked that up from watching some youtube celebrity, forget his name, he's pretty famous for doing music videos and skits. The scary thing is, I'm not sure i've peaked. I can do a lot better than this - esp since i haven't sprinted in over 2 weeks, and today was the first time this month I felt healthy enough to go all out. The weathers been good, stopped raining, suns come out and it dried away the wet grass, was still a bit dewy though, but I didn't notice it when running though.

I decided I didn't want to do three heavy triples on my last workout of the week. It's gotten pretty heavy, and my form goes out of the window in sets 2 and 3. Mentally it's gotten very intimidating. Now I'd rather just psyche up and go all out with 1 heavy set and then finish off with backoff work. This workout isn't for getting stronger, that happens during the other 2 squat sessions. The heavy triple is just for setting a new PR. After the heavy triple, I took weight off the bar and did 100 for 7 reps. I had another rep or 2 in me, but I wasn't looking to set a new RM. My goal with the 2nd set is to add reps. If I can take my 7x100 to 10x105 or even 10x110 the 1RM calculator says my 1RM can go upto 150kg. Which is crazy. Because that means just working hard in the higher reps, in that narrow 10kg range of 100kg to 110kg, I can get still get a lot stronger. So why not do that in addition to doing heavy 5s and 3s as well as continuing with the 6s which are serving me very well too. It saves me burning out from grinding out sets across with heavy weights which fucking sucks.

92.5kg close grip felt good - i'm gonna be ambitious and try 95kg at the end of the month. I have a feeling I have it in me. That would bring me a step closer to the magic 100kg goal in the coming month/s.

Oh and i've decided to follow the good advice i've gotten to skip the distance running. I don't fucking need it. 20-30minutes shooting hoops is aerobic for me. So why the fuck would i beat up my knees on a treadmill when I could be working on something I enjoy as well as improving my skills in my sport? Exactly.

As far as conditioning goes, i'll ease myself gently into intervals and just build up slowly over time. I tend to be super skeptical of training advice after being burned before, but in this case i'm coming around to the idea now. I just have to be smart about training now. I am just coming out of injuries and if I pick my battles, I can improve across the board by budgeting my recovery sensibly.

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Can you bail on that team?

There is only one team mate i'd feel bad letting down. Him, because he's actually making an effort and improving himself each week. He's come a long way from the start of the season and I know he actually gives a fuck, shows up to training and listens. The rest? Not really.

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I know you're shopping around for teams more at your level but it sounds like those guys are really bringing you down. I'm sure you enjoy the organized play, counted points, refs calling fouls, shit like that...But is it really worth it? With your knees acting up the amount of time you can ball hard is reduced and I think you would benefit more from doing some solo drills.

Wondering the same thing - if it's worth the frustration. I like your idea better, to go underground for a few months and come back as a lean, mean, athletic machine and kick some ass. Seriously, just concentrate on getting my bodycomp right and improving skills and athleticism. Then i'd only be worrying about things I CAN CONTROL and not a team that's a source of frustration and disappointment.

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Made some bad decisions today. There was a team training session planned, and I had to choose between lifting and going to training. Got there and realised it was a mistake because there were only 4 of us there, and they were playing 4v4 half court pickup games with some random guys. I wish I hadn't bothered driving there cos it took me 40mins and i missed my gym session for it. Didn't end up doing anything meaningful, i was hoping to run some plays but it was pointless with the low turnout. I said fuck it im here now and jumped into playing pickup. I was rested/fresh I felt amazingly athletic. I was hitting 8/10 of my shots, even nailed 3/4 of my 3point attempts and scoring a will, droving inside at will finishing off the glass or hitting a jumper. Got to say, if you play pickup the right way, it's actually a good way to practice different things. I tried posting up for instance, which i'd been inspired to having watched Lebron's play.

But oveall i'm regretting it now because i'd rather have squatted. Won't beat myself up too much, I made the wrong choice, it happens. Knees were complaining from running on the treadmill. Have to make some adjustments, i need my knees man and i've never had problems with them, so I don't want to mess that up now by doing some dumbshit choices. I think running on grass is best.




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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / w7,d2
« on: June 15, 2012, 10:38:19 am »
Training
SQ 3x5 112.5
BP 9,8x70 (new 9RM), 1x5x60
25 min run @ ~7.3km/hr, 3.1km (started at 8km/hr but couldn't sustain it and dropped down to 7km/hr at around 5 mins in)

Next week repeat the squat weight. Dont go up on the 5s until form is perfect.

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Passing isn't the only way to get the ball in your hands, you can also grab the rebound and keep it.   If i'm on a team and I don't feel like I'm getting enough touches  I focus on getting the rebound.  If the pace is too slow for your liking get the defensive rebound and push the ball yourself.  You may need to work on your handle, if you do the drills here the prescribed # of times every day for a week you should have more than sufficient handle for pushing the ball. Bottomline, if they're not giving you the opportunities you deserve create your own opportunities and show them why they're better off with the ball in your hands.

On defense we play 2-3 zone and i'm back on the wing, so when I've got the rebound 9/10 players on the court are already infront of me, so when pushing up i'd still be behind a bunch of them. If i push hard I can usually get past a lot of them, and my handles are ok for dribbling past most smaller guys who gamble for the steal, especially when they think i'm going to be uncordinated for my size. But i realise now that I take the foot of the pedal just past 1/2 court and allow the chance someone will steal it from behind. The reason why I do that is I don't want to be greedy, and I want to let some of my team mates catch up, and hopefully i can get an assist. But if I made up my mind to go all the way, I think I would score more often than not. Especially considering if we let them setup their usual zone defense before we attack, we're never going to get past the top 3 defenders. We don't have the perimeter shooting and our guards can't get the ball past them. But I get what you mean. I should just push it hard all the way to the rim if i've pulled down a board, that's not selfish. I'd definitely try that next game, and in the meantime i'll work on my handles with the video. Thank you for showing me a different way of looking at things, appreciate it.

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I know you're easing back into things after an injury but I'd still focus on picking up the speed of your runs as opposed to worrying about distance.  7km/hr is very slow especially for someone who prefers an uptempo game.  To give an idea of what that would require, the really fit guys on my team who can run up and down the court all day train intervals in the 13k-20k/hr range for 20-30min. 

Healing my ankle is kind of my priority right now. I know when I do sprints, it puts a lot of stress on my ankle and I think it sets back healing. I'd love to be sprinting regularly. Once i'm healthy i will change priority to sprinting. I've never sprinted until this year and it's terribly exciting for me each time I set a new PR - but i have to be patient and not push too hard right now. The same goes for jumping. Plyometric stuff is very hard on the ankle and i feel it afterwards. In the meantime i'm happy with gently pushing my squat up and spending some time building up aerobic endurance. I have never done running before so i've probably missed out on the benefits of aerobic work (health benefits like low resting heart rate etc). I also find that running on the treadmill for distance/time is fairly gentle on my ankle compared to sprinting.

I also realise my times are quite slow for now, but it's early days, considering today was just the 3rd time running kms. Maybe it wont help me at all and i'm just wasting time, but i'm happy to experiment. If after a few weeks I realise it's not doing anything for my athletisicm then i'll back off the longer runs. You are right that 7km/hr is slow but it's kind of the aerobic sweet spot for me atm, it's the pace where I can run but not go anerobic and get lactic acid buildup. It's not supposed to mimic game conditions like your team mates who can do  impressive 13-20km/hr intervals (sounds like a good goal for me to work up to though) . i'm using the guidelines from the HIIT myth ebook (link below) which try to keep the heart rate down so you're in teh aerobic zone. I don't have a heart rate monitor but i'm going by feel for now. Probably shouldn't even be as high as 7km/hr to be honest. I tried 8km/hr today and after 5 minutes I knew there was no way i was gonna run 25minutes at that pace.

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Anyway, good luck w/the team and keep up the hard work.

Thank you and I appreciate you stopping by!


http://anthonymychal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/TheMythofHIIT.pdf

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Basketball / Re: mile time
« on: June 13, 2012, 02:25:41 pm »

The simple answer to your question is no.  A couple things you should get:

Hey thanks for the detailed reply.

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1) A basketball game is NOT sustained. 

If you look at NBA players within the first 5 minutes of the game, all the starters are sweating heavily. What does that tell us? They are sweating because....... ? It's aerobix.. right? But lets say we're not talking about NBA with it's myriad breakages for the sake of television. Say we're talking about the London olympics where the breaks are more abbreviated in the traditional manner if that helps.

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2) Second, you are not understanding the differences and overlaps between energy systems.  Great aerobic shape does not allow you to keep the "OFF" switch on the anerobic energy system.  At the beginning of a middle distance race (ie. 400m, 800m, etc) your body begins by using the quickest energy system possible.  The body doesn't say "Oh I'm running an 800m let me leave this free ATP in the cell and go start using my aerobic capacity".  At the beginning of activity the body will begin to use free ATP, creatine phosphate and other quick energy pathways.  After these are used up the body will start to get energy from aerobic respiration and glycolysis.  If a lot of energy is needed glycolysis will dominate and the body will produce lactate which will cause the athlete to "hit the wall or tighten up".  If a lot of energy is not needed the body will primarily be using aerobic pathways which produce much much more ATP and will last a lot longer.  If you ever sprint the knowledge of these pathways is very important, they are why you run the 400m in the following way:

Taking your sprinting example, the basketball player is constantly switching between these energy systems, even more violently than the 400m sprinter you described. He has to go from rest to full speed, and everywhere in between during games. So a player who plays a full game better be able to sustain ~1hr of running effortlessly since that's expected of all the athletes on the court. You don't get to slow down since that will cost you games. Yes there are breaks inbetween, but that's balanced out with having to exert full effort so often that it probably helps to stay aerobic 91% rather than 88% (just to use your numbers).

It just seems to me that as a sprinter you have a very strong bias for anaerobic activities, which I understand and respect but this is clouding your judgement that basketball requires a solid aerobic base. I'm willing to bet every decent player at higher levels has a great aerobic base, and if they didn't they'd not be very competitive. It's probably taken for granted that someone who plays D1 like you mentioned earlier, has got the aerobic base already, and over the years of playing basketball has adapted to the aerobic demands of the game. I've read in several places that basketball is a mainly aerobic game, and even though I don't have the studies, i'm betting those who claimed it must have seen them.

As far as your randomised intervals go, i bet they will help someone with a good aerobic base from becoming better conditioned for basketball. Definitely. But if they didn't have a good aerobic base, they'd quickly find themselves running slow and the intervals wouldn't be as useful as running for 25-30 minutes at aerobic effort.

Btw can I ask you to comment on sprinters coming back from a season break, and building up an aerobic base first by running longer distances before they go on to train the specific max effort sprints? I read that's how Charlie Franscis trained his sprinters.


 

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