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The WR checking was about the 100m race example only.
Once again, don't get me wrong, i am not even sure i am convinced by my argument. But something is bothering me. I think what bothers me is that although this has nothing to do with the marathon, it masks the marathon. No marathon win will ever be the same , because no marathon win will be below 2 hours. Whatever happens, even if we see an epic marathon where the winner wins the runner up passing him at the last 100m and at an inhuman time of 2:00:01... "meh, Kipchoge would have owned that bitch", "bro, can you even run sub-2h?".
Maybe not for you and me and some other people, but for the vast majority i see that as a threat.
Anyway, good food from thought from your POVs too. Hope you are right and my skepticism is wrong.

that stuff w/ the fans already happens at every level. can't win there so might as well just not worry about them.

we'll see someone get under 2 hours official, that's for sure. everyone has been running alot faster since breaking2 - potentially shoe related, but also just guts related.

i don't think any of this masks the marathon. it's already masked.. drink stations w/ "performance fluids", shoe technology, etc.

the only way to unmask the marathon, is to have it run barefoot on grass w/ no calorie intake. it's been taken over by shoe/electrolyte companies.

Idk, if you had two kipchoge's in the same race going at it what would happen?

that's a great point.

if kipchoge was battling kipchoge in berlin, he'd have gotten much lower than 2:01:39 in 2018 - which he ran alone after mile 16-18 or so?

Bekele dropped 2:01:41 recently. everyone wants to see Kipchoge vs Bekele now.. Kipchoge's wrecked him in every marathon though, so I don't suspect it would be any different.

Also, Bekele's 2:01:41 was not run alone, in fact, he had to chase Legese all the way to the end, who had almost a ~minute lead on him at some point, then he just smoked Legese in the last few miles. Legese ended up running under 2:03, which is incredible. But that's an example of Bekele having a rabbit to chase, and it ending up helping him. He's tried to chase Kipchoge before and gotten destroyed by it.

They may face each other in Tokyo 2020 (olympics). Conditions won't be ideal. Apparently it'll be very hot. That makes for a less fast race, but a more interesting one. Kipchoge should still dominate, like he did in Rio etc, or that hot London marathon a few years back, where he just crushed everyone.

And concerning 'lab conditions' how many people are capable of going sub 2hr in ideal conditions? Do they even exist or is Kipchoge in a class of his own? Do people have treadmill times better than him?

I feel like Kipchoge is certainly in a class of his own. Bekele dropped a nuclear marathon result - but he's not consistent in the marathon. You never know what you're going to get with him. That's the biggest difference between Kipchoge and EVERYONE else. Kipchoge always shows up and performs at the highest level. Everyone else has bad days, which is normal. Mo just ran 2:09:XX in Chicago, a very bad day for him.

The athletes pacing Kipchoge are world class, and many of them looked like they were working. lmao.

13.1x mph for 1h:40s is insanity.

just ordered 3 more jacknobber's! so i'll have 4 total.

want to try out some weird stuff.. like doing both calves simultaneously, with adductors or glutes etc.

sounds crazy & very painful. 8|

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14/10/19

5.30am

Snatch-
Bunch of very basic drills. Working through this without much progression at the moment. Need to get something here.
3 x 30
Power Snatch-
2 x 40
2 x 50

Clean and Jerk (I love the idea of the squat jerk but realistically I need to be hitting the split from here)-
50 x 2
60 x 2

Squats- (last set cue of looking up and opening my mouth out of the hole. Straight up imitation of Chinese lifters. Bar felt like a feather on my back with that. weird)
70 x 3
110 x 3, 3, 2, 3 - all belted sets

Clean pull-
110 x 3
140 x 3, 2, 2, 1 - straps for all sets.forgot my belt on the second set here. Legs were toast after these.

BTN Push Press
50 x 4, 4, 2

10 mins stretching and done.

I'm balls deep in olympic lifting at the moment and it's very cool. Looking to line up a novice comp soon but not sure if I need to be part of a club first or something. Research to do.

*Edit- interesting observation this morning. Have been sneaking in a bulk the last few weeks. Ideally want to get to 100 and be a fairly 95. Currently sitting at 92 and still have top 4 abs. Two things happened this morning that confirm I'm on the right track. On way to gym I just felt a bit bigger. Firstly after my second set of squats at 110 random guy comes over, compliments me on form then starts asking for squatting advice. Never happened before in my life. Squats were looking good though. Secondly I was getting some decent eye attention from the females in the general area. This has happened before (obviously haha) but happens less to me in the gym given how many huge dudes workout there. Both good signs and a little extra juice to get me off to a good week.

lmao.

all good signs for swole life.

one day i will achieve 130 lb and receive absolutely no looks, just incredible speed. the dream.

Lol. I've never been anywhere near swole so that would be nice.

ya it'd be cool.

kenyan swole or nfl swole, both fun.

I'll start calling you The Sleeper haha.

don't get the reference lool.

Great world athletic championship, due to work I couldn't watch it live so watched the entire pre recorded live session and it was incredible.

Let me see if I can remember the high points.
So happy for mutaz with the high jump. He has adopted a new style of keeping his arms to the side. Sucks about him injuring himself attempting the world record but he came back strong.

yeah that was one of the best moments of the WC's. hope he stays healthy. hope to see him jump huge in Tokyo!

4 x 100m relay is unbeatable - coleman, gatlin and lyles and any fast american left

Hasan really awesome in the double gold, said she felt angry because of the alberto salazar charge and the suspicion on the atheltes on the oregon project, when she kicks, no one can catch her.

yea. they knew there were clouds hanging over Oregon Project though when they joined the team. so that's on them.

really hope they aren't on anything.. would be really "ballsy" to do stuff when the coach is actively under investigation etc.

i assume hassan/kajelcha are clean etc.

Mo is most definitely clean now.

these athletes are getting tested all the time. Julien Wanders posted a clip of his urine test AFTER participating in the ineos 159 challenge lmao.

Pole vault was soo fun and exciting the head to head with the two top guys.

400m hurldes woman, wat a race. dalillah muhammad vs mclaughlin, great win and world record, don't know why it reminds of what would happen if terence will fight spence lol.

LMFAO. it kinda reminds me of that too..

400m hurdles will not be the same after they are done with it.

but the way nasser beat uibo in the 400m, she just went all out entire 400m.

yea Uibo ran that like she knew she would win. Nasser took it.

Uibo was at a "disadvantage" though, not being able to see Nasser until it was basically too late.

epic performance by nasser. that's how you KO the champ.

i'd love to see Uibo try to double 200/400 in Tokyo.

110m hurdles sucks for ortega but glad he got a medal. the ingerbrigtsen are good but the kenyans, ethiopians and ugandans show when they kick they are far apart.

i think jakob has a better kick than most of them. but, trying to double at such a young age, and all of those heats, looked like it took the sting out of him.

lots of people mentioning that he's "gaining weight" (ie maturing). that could come back to haunt him for a while, at least in events > 1500m.

had he only done 1500m, i think he would have medaled, maybe even silver.

no way he (or any1) is beating cheruiyot tho.. cheruiyot is king right now.

I was surpised and happy to see the german woman runner keep up with the kenyans and come bronze (Konstanze Klosterhalfen) 5000m but obiri on another level.

ya klosterhalfen is another project oregon athlete too.. her training partner is Hassan, I think.

assuming they are all clean, then klosterhalfen is no joke. she's a force at 1500m and 5000m.

hassan is the best right now though.. at 1500m, 5000m, 10000m.. not half tho. brigid kosgei is the queen of half+full now.

hassan is probably #2 at half.

she's the most versatile runner (middle + long) in a LONG time.

she could probably even medal at 800m.

all in all great championship a lot of event were really good and exciting.

yup!

great recap!

insanity.

Brigid Kosgei, who got the unofficial half marathon WR a month or so ago, absolutely destroyed (2:14:04) the previous women's WR held by Radcliffe (2:15:25).

A seemingly "untouchable record" (2003) = smashed.

I was hoping she could get under 2:14, that would have been even more psycho. So close.

incredible weekend for Kenyans.

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019/10/13/brigid-kosgei-chicago-marathon-world-record/

Hassan Siffan ripped as fu*k.