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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 23, 2017, 12:24:38 am »
iirc OHP translates to bp better than the other way around. depends on your goal. sounds like that has to do with push press, so i'd say just focus on that. if you're worried about form, do less weight for more reps and don't let yourself go to even volitional failure until you're more confident.

bench is below PR levels (5x80, 1x90 atm, bests are 6x90, 1x100)
ohp is below PR levels (6x50, bests are 6x6x60)

so i could conceivably just bring both of these up simultaneously however once i get there, it will be easier to keep bp going than ohp which will stall. tbh even bp stalls for me :( but one thing i could change is moving away from using close grip. I haven't made that change yet b/c there's no point changing til ive got to previous PR levels.

The powerpress program given by glen is mon: 5x5 ohp, weds: 3x5 pp, fri: 3x5 bp  which seems to be making the ohp the main driver of the push press, im ok with that program, similar to what you've sug gested. however considering i can get spend forever getting ohp worksets back to 60kg, i know a quicker route is to take 60kg and just start with say 6 doubles and then the following week 6 triples and so on forth. Tbh if i was going all in ohp, id focus on getting my worksets to 70kg .. i think that would drive my pp and bp too. Shud i just do that? lol

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 22, 2017, 09:48:32 am »
Is it a better idea to get my bench press semi-respectable (repeatable 100kg for reps) before properly chasing a 5x100kg power press? It feels like that's a better strategy than hoping somehow i will add 30kg to my PR of 5x70kg. i dont really think i care about my push press PR right now .. i just wanna clean up the form so it looks less shit and then maybe i can focus on increasing it. thoughts welcome?


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 21, 2017, 08:02:27 am »
You should get a squat vid from your next session, maybe there's some issues we can see.

i honestly think it's two things, CNS fatigue and hip flexors being torched from reintroducing basketball. That sport is so bad on the body im going to try to limit it as much as possible .. i still want to be a beast on the court but my body cant take much more on court milleage, it's just too destructive. The reason it might not be CNS, my bench was actually ok, so that suggests it may just be hips -- which btw- when i started doing bench even 20kg warmups were killing my hip flexors lol. So hopefully my squat will respond soon once i re-adapt to basketball

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 21, 2017, 07:58:50 am »
Saw your back ext vid. Is there any way to rig it so you are doing them in your rack? That way you could use a barbell and set the safety pins to take the weight once you're done. When I was looking for the Klokov video there was one of him talking about them and warning of holding the weight in front due to the rounding of the back and shoulders. Anyway, food for thought. Not sure if actually possible.

That's a really cool idea. If i could figure out how to load it with a barbell i could progress it indefinitely and i think i would benefit from that immensely.

the diff btw holding it on your front and back has been brought up. i think i read somewhere that having the plates on the front means you can 'cheat' by letting the weight go closer to your stomach or something? I do find the ROM is limited by using bigger and bigger plates so that's also a reason why i'd like to do load it on the back instead. Andrew suggested using a ezcurl bar but i couldn't pull the trigger on it without knowing if it would actually be better than trying to hold a bar to the chest (impossible), which is also what lbss suggested. I do get frustrated running into these limitations otherwise im really excited about this exercise and want to see where it goes once im moving some decent weight.

The ex klokov does is horizontal (0 degree), i think i prefer 45s for now but i can adjust my bench to i think 25 and 0, but im trying not to modify too many variables at a time. Will by doing that long term though.

Also im not against rounding my back .. i want that at the bottom of the lift actually .. that's how you work the lower back rather than just glutes/hams .. will put up a video with better / fuller rom next week when i do them with 20kg plates which are low profile compared to the thick 25s i used in that vid

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 20, 2017, 08:19:25 am »
BS 1x130
FS 6x100(LPR), 2x110(LPR)
Back Xtn 8x55(PR), 2x8x60(PR)

BP 6x70, 0Fx100, 1x90(LPR), 5x80(LPR), 6x79.5(LPR), 6Fx75
CURL 3x8x40*

BW: 79.2kg (PR)

Notes:
Why the fuck is my backsquat being so shit? I was doing 6x130kg before xmas and now it's my 1rm. FML. I can bounce up just fine just have no juice to lock out and it took ages to finish the rep.  I did front squats as a consolation but they were shit too, form sucked and i think i tweaked my back too. 2 more days and then im done with fasting.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 19, 2017, 09:09:44 pm »
BW: 79.2kg (PR; AM)

am keeping an eye on my left hip, i wonder what caused this flare up .. or maybe it's only there cos im noticing it and if i didnt notice it would be just normal? idk. maybe front squats i did last week are the reason cos i go deeper on them. hoping for a good squat sesh today, i havent had a decent one in ageeeees, or 10 days

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 19, 2017, 08:05:07 am »
BW: 79.5kg (PR; AM)
BW: 78.2kg (PR; PM)

since i fast all day, it's interesting to compare these two readings .. which is more true? hard to say, but i guess if i am consistent and measuring the same time every time, then the first one is more true.

Played my 2nd game of basketball tonight. Was good. But on one block i really extended myself to swat the ball .. i got so high on my follow through i hit somewhere on the backboard, the guy i was tryna block let out a gasp .. but i knew it was a mistake cos my foot felt a slight twinge. It's fine now .. i guess .. but it does mean i should be more conservative about my comeback to jumping... lesson laernt, no dunking or big block attempts for a few more weeks!!!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 19, 2017, 07:59:15 am »
I mean it's not first choice .. but the other option ive heard about is the (btn) power press. Considering i have hurt my cervical spine twice .. im kinda wary about dropping a bar on my back and missing and hitting my neck or c-spine. it's picking a poison ;(

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 19, 2017, 01:00:43 am »
the forum tries to embed it and obv it wont work cos it's private but here is the link in case you are reading this log and wanted to see the vid. Makes me want to learn russian so bad just so i can understand him lol.

some random insights that occured during this week which deserve mention, the first and foremost is

a. i played my first game of bball on tuesday night and my foot was fine .. touchwood ... it could be that i haven't really tested it yet but it held up as good as can be expected.

b. while exploring power press technique, im considering widening my grip on the bar .. and also .. my foot width. i realised i could benefit from this even in things like walking .. not to say i have analysed myself walking on video or anything but this led me to realise i could benefit while playing basketball and say dribbling with slightly wider stance.. it makes so called defensive stance easier .. not to mentiion proper dribbling etc on offense. im prob guilty of having feet too close in most movements inc sports and def lifting

c. have decided that from feb, im going to commit to 11 months of non-cutting. even if im fat (and i am), i will just accept it and try to get as strong as possible without getting fatter.

d. i will prob go back to doing heavy jumpsquats as main explosive exercise, push presses are not the answer i wanted. that or i will teach myself to do the classical lifts, but considering im such a spazz when it comes to easier movements maybe that's just a dead end lol

e. conditioning, conditioning conditioning, as soon as im confident my foot is healed, im going all in on sprints and general running

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 17, 2017, 10:00:49 pm »
Dimitry is built for this though, look how short his arms are  .. he's got not issue with this lift. Look how shallow his dip is. Guys like us with basketball builds dont fare so well, my wingspan is 6'7" and even tho im experimenting with widening grip and rotating elbows higher i still wont have a good time with this lift or anything with the bar overhead smh. I do think i made life a lot harder for myself by sticking to a close grip on everything, begnch press, ohp, etc. So now im going to try going a bit wider to lift more weight

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 17, 2017, 09:58:11 pm »
Thanks for sharing that vid, i hadn't seen it before. Dimitry's push press is exactly what ive been looking at so it's interesting you linked him. haha.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdN1Sg4j-Sk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdN1Sg4j-Sk</a>

this is what i was viewing but your video is better cos it shows the issue. watch his wrists, they're bent at the top of the lift. This is necessary for their sport but im not not built for OL and im trying not to wreck my wrists not to mention i press way worse with bent wrists than straight. So do this experiment, take an empty bar out with your usual ohp grip, wrists are straight, that's ideal for pressing. But what's ideal for throwing the weight up in the air is closer to a FS rack. it just means you either finish the rep with bent wrists or you try to rotate your grip once it's launched to press it up

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: jump videos
« on: January 17, 2017, 09:52:22 pm »
I agree that NFL players would win but they train for athleticism don't they? so it's not really a fair comparison cos they've been running and jumping for their sport. Klokov doesn't do those things, so for him to get a 36" it's a baseline value, maybe if he trained to jump and run it would be more fair. But i agree with you that football athletes are impressive athletes.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: jump videos
« on: January 17, 2017, 09:47:01 pm »


www.instagram.com/p/BHQCFt1AxTEF-VUUy3ATiK5OzOM7cidQ-lKVP40/

if you log into your instagram account on your web browser you should be able to follow the link provided you follow him

soz, link added! He says he weighs 112kg, which is what his competing weight was, i think, i remember reading he would cut 5-8kg for comps to compete at 105

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 17, 2017, 08:53:15 am »
BS 1x130, 5x115
Power Press 4x60, 2x70 (i think), 5x60, 5x60
BBall game

BW: 79.7kg

Notes:
didnt have much of a good time with weights, my squat sucked (i still dont know why, i think hamstrings and quads? maybe even lower back?) were not recovered yet

my power press experiments didnt bear out either. i think bar speed is really good with a FS rack, but, the whole rotating the wrist mid rep is just stupid and unworkable, im not going to do that. Found a compromise, i take the bar out in my usual grip, similar to ohp .. and then rotate my elbows as much as i can upward, and then rest the bar on the clavicle, then i can kinda get my usual performance. bar speed is lower though. you cant win it all. maybe it's ok, it just means i need to dip lower to get a stronger kick to make up for the inefficiency and it works my upper body harder rather than grip. i guess it could be some white usa conspiracy to spread misinformation about this grip stuff, i read about it for the first time on t-nation so im just gonna make a small change and keep goiing the way i was prior

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: jump videos
« on: January 17, 2017, 03:13:42 am »
Was going thru Klokov's instagram and i came across a vid he put up of him trying a vertec, he got 36" btw. I imagine at his peak as an athlete and if he trained for the vertical leap he'd have like a 60" vertical or something? just found it interesting. dude fucks around and hits 36" smh. no link available, you'll have to follow him to see it, it's private

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