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Do you think squatting like in my left pic will make the squat in the right pic go up? Cos thats why i'm going on about all this stuff. I wanna squat my BS in a way which makes my FS go up without necessarily needing to FS a bunch.

As far as reasons and snarky physics goes, bring it on man. I'm keen on hearing it. I know one guy claims the LBBS puts less of a torque on the LB than the HBBS. Then Greg Everett debunked him in his book, showing the opposite was true, that the LBBS puts more of a torque on the LB.

But here is where im stuck .. in my mind model the lower the bar goes on the body there shud be a lesser tendency to lean forward cos there is a smaller moment trying to topple u over. or conversely, the higher the bar goes, the bigger a moment trying to rotate u fwd, hence more fwd lean. Why is my mental model flawed? I havent read gregs book but i wish i knew his explanation

Oh thats why you been acting cunty? I wasn't proving you wrong man, just already had that video open in my browser and embed it into the thread, nothing to do with you or your posts whatsover except the mention of KD.  

on the topic of strength in basketball, im wondering about leverages in the post. Who has the advantage and who has the disadvantage and reasons why in the following situations:

Without Ball
1. Big defender fronting small offensive player
2. Small defender fronting a big offensive player

With Ball
3. Big offensive player backing down a small defensive player
4. Small offensive player backing down a big defender

Training
SQ 3x6x100
OHP 4x55,3x54.4,4x53.5,4x53,2x8x45
CURLZ 3x8x37.5 (PR)

Really happy with the first 4 reps of my squats. The last 2 not so much. But i'm ok with that, considering, see next line.

OHP told me what I had suspected from squats, I was really weak today. I couldn't even ANY of my planned sets on press, and the weights are still light for me well within my old PRs. So I did what I could have.

Worked super hard for the curl PRs.

Looking forward to fridays, wanna PR my front squats and get some sprints in.

I suspect I was weak cos I lost a lot of water weight, thats why i'm treating my (current) bodyweight with suspicion. If it stabilises in the low 83s then i'll be more happy about it of course but we'll see.


Bodyweight: 83.25kg/183.5lb

BW: 83.6kg or 184.31lb .. i'll be genuinely delighted when I drop under 83. Hopefully sometime THIS week. I think i'm still way over 15% bodyfat, maybe even over 20?

Reduced my usual 2 slices of bread for breakfast to just 1 on rest days. Oh and I cut 1/2 a scoop of whey as well. So basically i'm very low fat, low carb, medium protein now. Been hungry all day lol. This shit better work!



My lowtop basketball shoes arrived. They're pretty nice. But a bit too roomy. Might have to wear 2 pairs of socks, will try them out on sunday for pickup ball. I didn't really tighten the shoelaces but I could pretty easily slip my foot out of the shoe which was a bit disconcerting. Hopefully I can jump in these shoes without bothering my ankles like my other hightop boots! I just realised I haven't tried dunking in over 2 wks now. And it's been around the same since I ran sprints. I missed a session due to rain, and last wk due to injury. Will def do both jumping and running this wk, weather permitting.  

In other news, I finished my new new flooring. I wasn't satisfied with the grey slab of concrete, something about it set off my inner caveman sensibilities. So a million flint sharped nails later, and a hammer worthy of coach he-who-shall-not-be-named-in-this-log, i've got a fully paleo surface  any prehistoric man would be proud to have adorning his cave.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtLvYdg3XDs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtLvYdg3XDs</a>

haven't tried squatting on it yet but will get a chance tomorrow, it seems pretty flat and even.

Don't look at what pro players do - they're older/more experienced than you are. Start with the draft numbers -

 http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=14

sort by bench press, you'll see you guys repping between 0-26 reps of 180lb. How many reps can you do?

And here is another fact: training the powersnatch solely for the same amount of time that I trained the squats would not have resulted in me powersnatching 85 kg - not even close. That is what "specific" gets you when "general" is not there.

But you're not including the time it took you to build up a 185x5 squat first? If you go back to when you STARTED squatting and started working on your powersnatch then, while squatting too, would it take you AS LONG to snatch 85kg? I don't know the answer to that question but would be interested in hearing whether you think it would take longer than the time it took to work up to a 185x5kg squat + 6 days of working on the powersnatch.Btw you probably know that there is a difference of opinion here because there are those in the other camp ("olympic lifting IS strength training") would disagree that it would necessarily take much longer.

Yeah I was thinking it might be a problem with the 20s, will see how it goes, I think the 15s might be ok since they're only a little bigger than my 10s and I found them fine.

Along the lines of makeshift training, could you get the same benefit by hip hinging and throwing up a medicine ball high up in the air (or over the head behind you) as explosively as possible? And the other way around you could drive the ball into the ground or thru and behind your legs. Would that 'work' and how would it compare with using kettlebells? I don't have a horse in the race just found myself wondering.

Also I have handle holes in my weight plates. Was thinking of running a band thru one hole and using the other one as a handle to do banded cleans like you would with a kettlebell. Not sure if it would work either (i havent tried).



edit, ok I tried banded plate swings and it works quite well. It's a lot of fun and it gives a nice little conditioning workout, I did like 11 reps in under 20 seconds with a 5kg plate. Overall did about 5-6 sets. Awersome. 10kg plate worked too and I didnt try bigger plates than that. I'm definitely gonna do these regularly now, I needed a quick hip exercise in my training - this is it!!!

I have a question tho - I can definitely see how it helps train hip explosion, but it's almost entirely leaving out the function of the quads. So can this really be sufficient to make one jump higher or would you need to additionally train the legs using a different exercise like front squats or highbar squats? OP said he just did swings and saw increases in his vertical, perhaps he already had adequate leg strength from his past training though. Just a guess.