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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 30, 2013, 11:20:49 am »
350 looked solid as fuck!!! Nice rep! In agreement with the slow eccentric on 360lbs. I don't know about you but looking at the 350 lift you probably would have gotten 360 with similar speed. When that happens to me its usually mental along the line of, 'this is heavy, go slow so you can 'catch' it at the bottom'. Kick that 360s ass next time!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 30, 2013, 11:15:17 am »
Nice!!!

Coges is 100% correct in his statements. The guy working solely in his game will destroy the guy just lifting and shooting once in awhile thats why its important to find a middle ground. I usually shoot around after every lifting session as a cool down and have 1-2 serious skill training sessions a week. As the season gets closer I'll ramp up the skill sessions. That is what works for me but I have always been a very natural basketball player so you may need more volume to maintain your skill or increase it.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Squats vs. Performance
« on: September 30, 2013, 10:44:53 am »
I'm at work and at my phone so I'll give a more detailed answer lately but what jumps out at.me is what you quoted from me, specifically 'you have to practice the movement regularly'. Then in your first paragraph of rebuttal you state

'(Paraphrased) all my RFD base movements decreased...but I wasn't practicing them'

How can you disagree then say that? Kelley is right. Most if not all gains (depending on the level of athlete) will come not during the strength training segment but when they actually practice more related exercises or do the actual movement. Well, yea! But as Raptor stated build a big motor then make it efficient. A 2L motor operating at 95% volumetric efficiency wont make the same power as a 4L motor operating at 95% VE. (All other things equal like cam profile, static/dynamic compression ratios, etc [read fast twitch fiber ratio, tendon lengths, bone structure ;) ])


and yes, I'm a car fanatic and spend way to much on my cars lol

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: September 29, 2013, 04:31:40 pm »
Well...I've decided since I've been sick, ate like crap the last two days and only lifted once this week it shall be my deload week. Going to try another strength block starting Monday (tomorrow), need to set some goals or a time (week) limit for this block which I'll post tomorrow after some thinking. Nice to have a few days off but now I feel like shit for eating 'bad' (brownies and ice cream lol) and I'm ready to start a new.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Squats vs. Performance
« on: September 29, 2013, 04:06:46 pm »
The difference is in how your body reacts to training.  Some people have issues recovering from extended strength blocks of work. For them I'd say a regular deload/peaking block would be beneficial (say every 'x' weeks) so that they don't burn out. Others may be better suited attaining certain strength goals before peaking or deloading. You can't have a generalized view of do this and this then do this as people react differently.

That also leads to your point that squats don't help this or that. Maybe for.you they don't help or don't help as much as another lift or exercise but for me...they might. Too many variable to say 'oh get a 2x bw squat and jump xx inches or run xx times'. Find what exercises work for you amd get stronger.  Which leads to my last point....

Any relative strength gain should have a positive correlation to your jump/sprint times as long as you can express it efficiently.  Without this you can get as strong as you want and it wont matter. You still have to practice the movements regularly to see gains.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 29, 2013, 02:49:26 pm »
Are you serious?!?!?! You don't think dropping 20+ pounds (forgive me I'm American lol) will help?! Man, dropping I noticed a difference dropping 7lbs and maintaining the same strength levels.

Also, how often are you training specifically for basketball or quickness? If you aren't a 'natural' athlete or player then you'll need to work on those almost as often as lifting. Just my observations from watching other players for years.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Squats vs. Performance
« on: September 29, 2013, 01:45:40 pm »
Very true to your first part Avishek. You have to cultivate strength occasionally ANDthe differing stimuli from switching up training/exercises/rep schemes can shock the body towards gains as well. 

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Squats vs. Performance
« on: September 28, 2013, 02:04:33 pm »
Makes sense. Ive seen ridiculously strong squatters who can't jump and guys that can fly with no squat specific strength. Its all movement efficiency.  Of course being stronger in ratio to BW can't hurt. I'm curious to what some of these guys who can't ATG squat any weight can squat at a joint angle relative to their plant (specifically 2 foot jumpers), I'd venture to say its exponentially more.

This and ankle/hip mobility have led me to not really 'care' what squat is as long as its as deep as I can go safely/comfortably and the weights progress. Bottom line is still get strong, practice movement.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: September 28, 2013, 11:20:55 am »
Right.  Not going to jump any higher hurt! The heavy reps suck but you have to get strong!!!

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: September 28, 2013, 11:09:56 am »
I hope that sign in the back is true...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: September 27, 2013, 02:00:05 am »
Holding top and bottom for a little, exploding up as fast as possible and letting it down slowly and controlled. I definitely don't want that weight coming down fast at all, happened once, Achilles didn't seem happy for a few days. That's how I try to do all my lifts (except speed squats), slow down and explode up as fast as possible while maintaining control. The way I see it is...train like everything is a 'jump'. You don't jump slowly so why lift slowly? Only difference is on the way down, with weights Ibtemd to err towards caution but practicing jumps I want to get into my plant as quickly as possible.

Hope that made sense, its late here lol!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: September 26, 2013, 10:43:34 pm »
Its not a quick set at all. There's a decent amount of TUT, maybe not as much as a set of squats but seems to he enough to grow and fet stronger? I may play with switching it up on my next strength cycle.

As for me, daughter got sick...daddy got sick.  :/ Felt like shit Tues and Wed so I just drank a ton of fluids and sat around. Felt mildly better today so like a dumbass I went to play ball with some friends. Didn't feel like I had any energy, felt very slow, had some chills during the second game and now I'm nauseous yay! But for some reason I was flying tonight? BW is way down at 169-170lbs so maybe that was it but two handers of glass were child's play, couple clean reverses and just missed a windmill and a 360. Don't really know what's going on but I'll take it. Had a few in game dunks but only one that was really nice. Caught a rebound one hander that I thought was out of reach and flushed it cleanly.

My friend also was soooooo close to getting his first dunk so I was pretty excited about that, hopefully he can get a clean one soon as he just started lifting.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: September 24, 2013, 02:37:22 pm »
Both. Lol! Its probably more in between quarter and a little less? I did a run up to the squat rack like I was about to do a DLRVJ and 'paused' at the bottom of my drop and set the pins just below that. My thinking was by doing that depth as fast as I can Im directly training the same pattern I use to jump. Shrug. Seemed like a decent idea although the jury is still out to see if it has any actual translation to my jumps. I'm using the bands for extra resistance plus they 'hold' the bar down and dont let it bounce on my traps/spine. Which btw really hurts lol! Tried my first set bandless and stopped mid set, dropped weight, added bands. Much better!


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: September 24, 2013, 02:19:10 pm »
Mon Sept 23 2013

Bodyweight at 173-175lbs.
Ankle seemed to hold up pretty good and not other injuries to report.
Energy was very good!

Warmups

Depth drops and jumps:
3 sets of 5

Hypers:
W/ 10lbs x10, 10. W/ 25lbs x10.

Paused calf raises:
660lbs x6, x5. Upped weight, will stay here til repeatable 8-10 rep sets.

Squats:
225x3 paused, 275x1 315x1 365x1 385x1 405x1 425x1. Did some ankle mobility stuff directly before squatting and up to 315lbs I was noticeablely 'deeper'. Very cool.

Banded quarter squats for speed:
515 (+120) x10. Ughhh. Everytime these feel like they're going to kill me but next day Im ok lol! Definitely destroys whatever energy I have left.

Typical back/bicep/heavy core work. Tossed some shoulder work in as well and cooled off with some shooting. Just for fun I tried a few dunks to see how much those quarters wear me out. Yea wasn't happening, I felt accomplished getting rim with both hands SMH. Awesome workout though.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: September 23, 2013, 11:11:14 am »
Updates

Friday Sept 20 2013
BW @ 173-176lbs
Motivation to lift again is high, energy up as well.
Ankle looks and feels great, still no clue what happened so I'll continue watching it.

Warmups

Depth Drops and Depth jumps:
3 sets of 5 each. Last set of DJ was very nice.

Hypers:
3 sets of 10 w/ 10lbs. Slow and controlled.

Paused Calf Raise on leg press:
610lbs x8, x8.

Squats:
225x3 paused, 275x1, 315x1, 365x1, 385x1, 405x1, 425x1. Tried a 440 but depth was shit. Wasn't strong enough and my hip/ankle mobility need work IMO.

Banded 1/4 squats (for speed):
495 (+120)x10. These suck but definitely recruit the right motor pattern for me. Back is always beat afterwards lol

Ended with back/biceps/abs and some shooting work. Felt great to be back at it!

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Sat Sept 21 2013

BW @ 174-176lbs.
Not a great sleep, energy was down but picked up considerably as I progressed.
Ankle feels great, upper back is a little sore.

Warmups

Box jumps and pogo jumps:
3 sets if 5 each. Last set of box jumps I used a weighted belt (12lbs, light stuff) for the first 3 reps, then dropped weight and performed last 2 reps. Surprising difference! Thinking of doing some more contrast training after this.

Ham curls:
140lbs x5, x5. Single leg 60lbs x12 each leg.

Deadlifts:
225x3 (deficit), 275x1, 315x1, 335x1, 355x1, 375x1F (grip). Realized I hadn't deadlift in a min due to all sort crap. 355 went up very easy, surprisingly. Probably should have tried 365 but said F it, couldn't grip 375 in a double overhand, thought briefly about trying a different grip but I'll just remember my straps next time. Not looking to jack up a bicep. :)

Had some sprints and shooting planned since I don't run enough but it was raining like crazy. Bah!

Overall not a bad workout, disappointed in the 375 fail but I'll get it.



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