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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 28, 2009, 12:51:21 pm »
Dude any particular reason why are you doing all these 400 meter sprints and long duration jump rope? 

Being a boxer I imagine you're pretty good with the jump rope eh?

 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 27, 2009, 01:57:04 pm »
That argument on Verkho's forum goes back to something that is true in the majority of cases and that is coaches rarely train and if they do all they do is lift.  Thus, all the stuff you hear supposedly smart pepole throwing out is 9 times out of 10 just someone elses theories - and that someone else is usually a labcoat who didn't train either.

If you fool around with it long enough you begin to find there really aren't any hard and fast rules when it comes to lifting other than the principal of progressive resistance. You can lift 7 days per week or 1. Sets of 20 or sets of 1.  The body is very adaptable and glaring mistakes will show up in how they affect progressive resistance. Most people are too smart for their own good to really have a realistic view of lifting.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: A LEGACY AMD RE-EMERGENCE OF STRIDE LENGTH IN SPRINTING
« on: June 22, 2009, 12:44:32 pm »
But on another note what also gets to me is in the real world none of that stuff even matters. Jamaica with the most advanced training regimens, sprint coaches, scientific analysis, and high-tech facilities (sarcasm), has stepped to the forefront to dominate both mens and womens sprinting. 

My point is in the real world in the sport of sprinting genes and a better drug stack (see Jamaican women) still beat all that supposedly superior labcoating any day of the week.  That type of article and the majority like it are all just theoretical and analytical mental masturbation.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: A LEGACY AMD RE-EMERGENCE OF STRIDE LENGTH IN SPRINTING
« on: June 21, 2009, 08:49:08 pm »
RJ I wasn't throwing out any training recommendations so don't take that as me throwing out training schemes.  All I was commenting on was the general degree of labcoating, analyzing, counting, etc. that goes on in the sprint world by sprint enthusiasts and some coaches.  In my experience it's not at all uncommon that a bro spends a year or 2 learning about sprinting then the next 3 trying to turn his mind off.  Wanna know a good way to take sprinting out of the hindbrain where it belongs and put it in the forebrain? Make people acutely aware of things like how many steps they take, stride frequency, etc.  I actually think the foundations of the inno-sport system are pretty good.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: A LEGACY AMD RE-EMERGENCE OF STRIDE LENGTH IN SPRINTING
« on: June 21, 2009, 12:52:26 pm »
A 6'5 guy takes longer strides than 5'9 sprinters?  No shit?

The white mans common view of sprinting is almost laughable and I think easily surpasses the degree of OCD overanalyzing that takes place in any other sport.  All the relevant research in the sport would appear to make things simple for them (see the Weyand study), but evidently people don't get it.  All the OCD film analysis, lingo, form talk, charts, training regimens, etc. is laughable considering the sport is more about genetics than any other and improvements are damn near as synonymous with performance enhancing drugs as bodybuilding, which few of these folks ever mention.

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If you ever decide to train more for sprinting instead of vert I think you'll know exactly what I mean. You know your science and terms and all that, but I bet it takes you 6 months just to translate the lingo and figure out what the hell people are talking about. "MY GPP consisists of a warmup of A & B skips, intensive tempo,  SE1 work, and power speed drills designed to improve my frontside mechanics and full body weights on a 3-1-3 scheme.  haha  WTF?"

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Project Phoenix
« on: June 12, 2009, 02:49:49 pm »

What particularly gets to me is some of the descriptions they use like "hypertrophication of type II intermediate fibers"  makes it sound like some type of cutting edge muscle growth method. They don't bother to explain what they're really talking about though.  What they really mean is growth of mitochondria in type II fibers or you could also say, slow twitchification of type II fibers. 


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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Project Phoenix
« on: June 12, 2009, 01:48:06 pm »
This reminds me, I need to write an article addressing all this current cardio overanalytical omegawave  rage etc.  It really frustrates me to no end because not only do they make it all guruesque sounding but they make up their own terms in place of old standsards like lactate threshold, aerobic threshold etc. and toss out HR numbers like they're standard when they're individual specific.    If you're gonna make your conditioning that complicated and you're already training inno-sport why don't you use their terms for it...aerobic reserve, aerobic response, anaerobic reserve etc. ?

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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:16:45 pm »

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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:16:15 pm »
Leg extension power and muscle fiber composition.Coyle EF, Costill DL, Lesmes GR.

The purpose of this investigation was to relate muscle fiber composition to the isokinetic measure of peak torque production through a range of leg extension velocities. Twenty-one males were biopsied from the vastus lateralis muscle to determine their percent distribution of slow twitch (%ST) and fast twitch (%FT) muscle fibers as identified through myofibrillar adenosine triphosphatase activity. All subjects showed a decline in peak torque with increasing velocities. Subjects with predominantly FT fibers were able to generate 11, 16, 23 and 47 percent greater relative peak torque than could predominantly ST subjects at lever arm velocities of 115, 200, 287 and 400 degrees/second respectively. Likewise the correlation between relative torque production and % FT were significant (p less than .05) and increased from r = 0.44 to r = 0.75 as velocity increased from 115 to 400 degrees/second respectively. These data suggest that muscle fiber composition becomes increasingly more related to power performance as the velocity of movement increases.



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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:15:10 pm »
Muscle hypertrophy in bodybuilders.Tesch PA, Larsson L.

Muscle biopsy samples were obtained from m. vastus lateralis and m. deltoideus of three high caliber bodybuilders. Tissue specimens were analysed with respect to relative distribution of fast twitch (FT) and slow twitch (ST) fiber types and different indices of fiber area. In comparison to a reference group of competitive power/weight-lifters the following tendencies were observed: the percentage of FT fibers was less, mean fiber area was smaller and selective FT fiber hypertrophy was not evident. Values for fiber type composition and fiber size were more similar to values reported for physical education students and non-strength trained individuals. The results suggest that weight training induced muscle hypertrophy may be regulated by different mechanisms depending upon the volume and intensity of exercise




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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:13:42 pm »
Muscle fiber number in biceps brachii in bodybuilders and control subjects.MacDougall JD, Sale DG, Alway SE, Sutton JR.

Muscle fiber numbers were estimated in vivo in biceps brachii in 5 elite male bodybuilders, 7 intermediate caliber bodybuilders, and 13 age-matched controls. Mean fiber area and collagen volume density were calculated from needle biopsies and muscle cross-sectional area by computerized tomographic scanning. Contralateral measurements in a subsample of seven subjects indicated the method for estimation of fiber numbers to have adequate reliability. There was a wide interindividual range for fiber numbers in biceps (172,085-418,884), but despite large differences in muscle size both bodybuilder groups possessed the same number of muscle fibers as the group of untrained controls. Although there was a high correlation between average cross-sectional fiber area and total muscle cross-sectional area within each group, many of the subjects with the largest muscles also tended to have a large number of fibers. Since there were equally well-trained subjects with fewer than normal fiber numbers, we interpret this finding to be due to genetic endowment rather than to training-induced hyperplasia. The proportion of muscle comprised of connective and other noncontractile tissue was the same for all subjects (approximately 13%), thus indicating greater absolute amounts of connective tissue in the trained subjects. We conclude that in humans, heavy resistance training directed toward achieving maximum size in skeletal muscle does not result in an increase in fiber numbers.



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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:12:39 pm »

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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:11:56 pm »
Muscle strength from adolescence to adulthood--relationship to muscle fibre types.Glenmark B, Hedberg G, Kaijser L, Jansson E.
Department of Clinical Physiology, Karolinska Hospital, Stockholm, Sweden.

The aim of the present study was to reinvestigate muscle strength and the relationship to muscle fibre and the level of physical activity in adult men and women previously studied during adolescence. A group of 55 men and 26 women were tested for maximal strength (handgrip, Sargent jump and two-hand lift) and completed a questionnaire concerning physical activity during their leisure time (activity index) at the ages of 16 and 27 years. Biopsy specimens were taken from the vastus lateralis and analysed for fibre type (percentage of I, IIA, IIB) and fibre area (area I, area IIA, area IIB). The sex differences in strength increased from age 16 to 17 years. Body dimension, sex, percentage of type II, mean fibre area and the activity index contributed to explaining 50-75% of the strength at both ages. Different changes in relationship between fibre type composition and strength in women and men was seen with increasing age. In the women, the relationship between strength and the percentage of type II fibres changed with age (from 16 to 27 years of age) from a positive correlation (only Sargent jump) to negative correlations for all the strength tests, i.e. the more type I fibres the stronger the subject. A positive correlation between strength and the level of physical activity during leisure time was revealed in the women at both ages. The positive correlation between strength and type II fibres in the 16-year-old men had disappeared at age 27. No systematic relationships between strength and the level of physical activity were seen in the men at either 16 or 27 years of age. It is suggested that women may be more dependent on physical activity than adult men to develop strength and the percentage of type I fibres reflects the degree of physical activity among adult women but not among adolescent women.


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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:11:19 pm »
 
The influence of variations in muscle fibre composition on muscle strength and cross-sectional area in untrained males.Maughan RJ, Nimmo MA.

The force produced by a maximum voluntary isometric contraction of the knee-extensor muscles was measured in a group of fifteen healthy young male volunteers. All subjects were untrained at the time of the study. The cross-sectional area of the knee-extensor muscles was measured at the mid-thigh level using computed tomography. Skeletal muscle samples were obtained by needle biopsy from the mid-point of m. vastus lateralis of the stronger leg of each subject. Samples were mounted, frozen and sectioned for histochemical analysis. On the basis of the pH dependent lability of the myosin ATP-ase reaction, fibres were classified as Type I, Type IIA or Type II B. Using computerized planimetry, muscle fibre cross-sectional areas were measured on serial sections stained for succinate dehydrogenase activity. As previously described, muscle strength (maximum voluntary contraction) was correlated with the muscle cross-sectional area (r = 0.70, P less than 0.01). The ratio of strength (in N) to cross-sectional area (in cm2) was 8.92 +/- 1.01 (mean +/- S.D.) with a wide range of values, from 7.09 to 10.85. Muscle fibre composition of m. vastus lateralis in these subjects was 46.1 +/- 10.5% Type I, 42.8 +/- 11.4% Type IIA and 11.1 +/- 9.7% Type IIB. After correction for differences in the cross-sectional areas of the different fibre types, the proportions of total area occupied by the different fibre types were: 43.6 +/- 11.9% Type I, 46.4 +/- 13.1% Type IIA and 10.0 +/- 9.1% Type IIB. No relationship was observed to exist between muscle strength and muscle fibre composition. Similarly, the muscle strength/cross-sectional area ratio was not related to the proportions of the different fibre types present or to the fraction of the total cross-sectional area occupied by the different fibre types. From the results it can be concluded that there is no difference in the force per unit area which can be generated by the different muscle fibre types present in human skeletal muscle. Variations in muscle fibre composition between individuals cannot, therefore, account for the large variations observed in the ratio of strength to muscle cross-sectional area.



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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Fiber type is irrelevant for size and strength...but for speed and power...it is
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:10:29 pm »

Summary:

1. For size and strength, total muscle fiber cross sectional area is more important than fiber type. With regards to peak force production, the main difference amongst the fibers is their size. Type II's are bigger yet an equal volume of type I's can produce roughly the same peak force. Therefore, for displays of maximum force (strength), or size, fiber type is of little consequence. A good illustration is Lance Armstrong.  He's verified 90% slow twitch, but his legs are possibly bigger than Usain Bolt, who is likely 90% fast twitch.

2.  For displays of rapid tension type II fiber has more importance.

3. If you don't have much FT fiber or much FT cross sectional size, you can strength train for years, get bigger, and the muscle you grow will allow you to increase the relative area of Type II's, allowing you to function more like a naturally FT individual.


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No relationship was observed to exist between muscle strength and muscle fibre composition. Similarly, the muscle strength/cross-sectional area ratio was not related to the proportions of the different fibre types present or to the fraction of the total cross-sectional area occupied by the different fibre types. From the results it can be concluded that there is no difference in the force per unit area which can be generated by the different muscle fibre types present in human skeletal muscle.


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In the women, the relationship between strength and the percentage of type II fibres changed with age (from 16 to 27 years of age) from a positive correlation (only Sargent jump) to negative correlations for all the strength tests, i.e. the more type I fibres the stronger the subject. A positive correlation between strength and the level of physical activity during leisure time was revealed in the women at both ages. The positive correlation between strength and type II fibres in the 16-year-old men had disappeared at age 27.

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The relationship between maximum voluntary concentric strength, muscle fibre type distribution and muscle cross-sectional areas were examined in 23 subjects (7 female and 11 male phys. ed. students as well as 5 male bodybuilders). Maximal knee and elbow extension as well as elbow flexion torque at the angular velocities 30, 90 and 180 degrees per second was measured. Muscle biopsies were taken from vastus lateralis and m. triceps brachii. The muscle cross-sectional area of the thigh and upper arm was measured with computed tomography scanning. The maximal torque correlated strongly to the muscle cross-sectional area times an approximative measure on the lever arm (body height). Maximal tension developed per unit of muscle cross-sectional area did not correlate significantly with per cent type I fibre area and did not differ between the female and male students or bodybuilders.


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Although there was a high correlation between average cross-sectional fiber area and total muscle cross-sectional area within each group, many of the subjects with the largest muscles also tended to have a large number of fibers.

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Muscle biopsy samples were obtained from m. vastus lateralis and m. deltoideus of three high caliber bodybuilders. Tissue specimens were analysed with respect to relative distribution of fast twitch (FT) and slow twitch (ST) fiber types and different indices of fiber area. In comparison to a reference group of competitive power/weight-lifters the following tendencies were observed: the percentage of FT fibers was less, mean fiber area was smaller and selective FT fiber hypertrophy was not evident.

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Subjects with predominantly FT fibers were able to generate 11, 16, 23 and 47 percent greater relative peak torque than could predominantly ST subjects at lever arm velocities of 115, 200, 287 and 400 degrees/second respectively. Likewise the correlation between relative torque production and % FT were significant (p less than .05) and increased from r = 0.44 to r = 0.75 as velocity increased from 115 to 400 degrees/second respectively. These data suggest that muscle fiber composition becomes increasingly more related to power performance as the velocity of movement increases

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Muscle biopsies from m. vastus lateralis of two world class shot putters (shot putter 1 and 2) and the untrained brother of shot putter 1 were analyzed for fiber type distribution with ATPase staining and in situ hybridization for the expression of alkali myosin light chain (MLC) isoforms. Shot putter 2 had a predominance of type II fibers (67 X) and distinct hypertrophy of type I as well as type II fibers (fiber areas of 5939 and 8531 microm2). In shot putter 1, type II fibers amounted to only 40%, due to their selective hypertrophy, however type II fibers (10265 microm2) accounted for 67 2% of the total cross-sectional area. We suggest that the ability to selectively increase the relative area of his type II fibers in the 15 years of strength training was a key element in his success as a shot putter.



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