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I say this with caution because I don't want to start this debate all over again.  But KF's experience with his squat bringing up his vertical jump comes with a high-bar squat.   You have increased your low-bar squat.  I don't want to bring back age old arguments with Steven Miller (if I recall that guy had some ridiculously high squat numbers paired with a comparatively poor vertical leap...)  or have someone start quoting Rippetoe.... but the lifts are not identical. IMO Greg Everetts book makes a good case for the better utility of high-bar squatting... but even if you are a low-bar disciple you have to realize the lifts are simply different and are one more reason you can't assume KF's experience will mirror yours.   

KF increased his high-bar olympic squat without sacrificing much speed whilst putting in a lot of practice in the standing full-squat vertical jump, and coming out with a net weight loss.  I don't believe he is the genetic outlier.  Most people could get somewhat comparable improvements using the same method.   However, you won't necessarily bring up your speed (something that's important for frisbee?) or increase your running DL vertical jump or SL vertical jump;  All goals you seem to have.   

I'm obviously a believer in the high-bar squat; in fact in some cases, I'd rather have athletes squat high-bar above parallel than low-bar squat.  The form for which you can squeeze out the most poundage (see kipping pullups) is often the form which will translate the least other movements.  While I am sure there are lifting coaches who know more than me who advocate the low-bar squat; all I know is I have seen a whole lot more people with big low-bar squats and poor vertical jumps, poor speed, poor pulls, poor dead lifts, poor front squats, etc than I have with the high-bar squat. I don't come across people too often who have added 100lbs to their high-bar squat and have stayed really stagnant in everything else.   Just anecdotal, though!

My biases aside, you might consider switching up your squat form just to have a break from squatting.  Some front squats or pause squats might be good to incorporate. 

Additionally, you said you only had 15m to bound?  I hope that doesn't mean you plan to do bounding on a basketball court or concrete.  I strongly advise you to do maximal effort bounding on a basketball court for a long duration of time and will just flat out ask you to stay away from concrete.  Bounding looks easy but it is hard.

yes.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 11, 2013, 12:38:02 pm »
Mon 8:00am
Feb 11, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 405s

315 x1 x1
365 x1
405 x1 x1

Chin
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - BW pull to sternum
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495lb x20 - leg press

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Feb 11, 2013 - Day 1 455x1 Top set

Mon 4:30pm
Feb 11, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 425s
315,365,405,455x1 BW 192-194lb
425 x1 x1

Chins
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - Maintenanceoo
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495 x20 | leg press

* was only planning on using the 445x1 top set but IMO, 440-445 is the same thing. 450 is ugly with 2x10s and a 2-1/2. put the big 25lb in there and went for the 455x1. it went up like a smooth 440. no correcting of the lowerback or any max effort grunting.. just a routine top set. should have taken a vid but as this was a monday afternoon - gym was packed. i can lift this 455x1 again. the way it went up today, seems like a daily top set anyway.
* 23 days with 440x1 top set and thats about it for that 4 plates and the little change. i like this 4x45+25lb a lot better.  :headbang:


What's your BF% at your current weight?

tested with the caliper this afternoon at 11.7%. could be a bit lower if i measure first thing in the morning. 

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Some dunks from a 5'10 guy
« on: February 11, 2013, 10:29:54 am »
Hello

I introduced myself already so now I'll show you some of my dunks. Still looking for some power and I know I can do this with regularly work which I didn't have last year because of injury.

Here's my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/maverickdaw?feature=mhee

and there you can check one of my last dunk session. My older videos before injury / lower rims and many others you can see too

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IDAlw-BEV8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IDAlw-BEV8</a>

impressive jumping. :headbang:

if you want to lessen the stress to your knees from the jumps, hang on to the rim after a dunk for a few seconds so you land squared and only from a 30+ drop.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 10, 2013, 12:53:39 pm »
Sun 8:00am
Feb 10, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 405s

315 x1 x1
365 x1
405 x1 x1

Chin
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - BW pull to sternum
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495lb x20 - leg press

*coldness this morning at 37F. stayed in sauna for 5mins to put on adistars. squats went up smoothly. looking good for this afternoons workout.

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Sun 4:30pm
Feb 10, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 425s
315,365,405,440x1 BW 192-194lb
425 x1 x1

Chins
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - Maintenanceoo
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495 x20 | leg press

* added a couple of plantains to my menu and i carb'd my way into the BW194s. the 405/440 today felt very easy. i could have doubled the 425s with this much explosiveness. held back and did  singles to prepare for tmrw. i will go 445x1 top set for a couple of days again and hit 455 whenever that 445 feels not very heavy anymore or when i'm at a dry 194-196s
* long term goal is to get repeatable 455s and drop BW to the high 180s or if my erector chain feels up to it - go for 475-495s with max BW into the low 200s then drop back to the low 190s maintaining that top set. repeatable IMO at full carb'd weight is top set for daily workouts, at lean non-carb'd weight is 1-2x/week.




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Up to you, I know in the past you've gotten gains when your squat numbers have been near PR levels so you might not want to decrease the strength emphasis. I guess my thinking lately is that leg strength measures are very important for vertical jump up until a certain relative level (each individual's number is probably different depending on style, structure etc., but let's say say 2xBW for squat or 2.5xBW for DL). Beyond this point though, unless you are really committed to gaining freakish relative strength like Kingfish or those Broz lifters (fairly long-term effort/impossible for some), then eventually I think you'll have to incorporate more speed/strength expression work if you wanna get higher.

the stronger i get, the better my SVJs get. you cannot express the strength that you do not have. my jumps continually improve IMO because i believe that i will jump higher - there is nowhere this new +lbs in  my squat is going to go.

the problem could be that you expect things to happen quick. i'e, squatted 350 today.. let me test my jump in a few days and see how many inches i've gained. i could wait 2-3 weeks doing squat maintenance and a lot more SVJ reps until i see myself adapt to the SVJ stimulus.

also, when you reach a squat PR.. do not use that as a basis of strength. it's the repeatable poundage (with very little STIM) that matters. IMO.  ;D

good luck buddy.

edit: these SVJ drills worked really well for me. i go for max reps.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDScwmqe1kk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDScwmqe1kk</a>

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 09, 2013, 11:51:55 am »
Sat 8:00am
Feb 9, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 405s

315 x1 x1 x1
365 x0
405 x0 x0

Chin
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - BW pull to sternum
- BW x0

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x0

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495lb x0 - leg press

* home workout again after the 13hr night work. no more headache or running nose. i'l get my staggered 4+2hr sleep in a few minutes and lift later at 4pm.

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Sat 4:00pm
Feb 9, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 425s
315,365,405,440x1 BW 188-192lb
425 x1 x1

Chins
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - Maintenanceoo
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495 x20 | leg press

* nothing new. not moving forward or backward. can't complain. this is the 22nd daily 200kgs. BW did not improve this week. will work on that.

You have a squat rack in your home?  Ridiculous that 315lbs is a warmup for you.  I still grind 315 if I don't prepare properly and I got 20lbs+ on you at similar height.  What's staggered sleep, 4+2?   Sleep for 4, lift, sleep for 2?

i wake up after 4 hrs of sleep. drink warm water, chill for a few minutes and sleep for another 2 hrs again. if i sleep 6+hrs straight, i wake up tired. sleep patterns are very consistent i don't even use an alarm clock.. i have squat stands at home, valor fitness DB-8 model.

i lift so often that i don't really get very cold. coming from a cold night work, il take a 15min hot shower and hit the 3x 315 singles in the morning and call it a night.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 08, 2013, 11:37:24 am »
Fri 8:00am
Feb 8, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 405s

315 x1 x1 x1
365 x0
405 x0 x0

Chin
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - BW pull to sternum
- BW x0

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x0

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495lb x0 - leg press

* workout at home. had to use a 1-day work vacation because my colds didn't improve yesterday. cannot work in an aseptic environment sneezing and coughing. i do not use sick days. i'm not really sick. sick = stuck in bed IMO. i've never been sick in all my 12 years of work.
* i was worried that my weight will take a hit so i force fed myself yesterday even though everything is near tasteless and drank lots of water (32oz x2). slept at wet 196BW. sweat like crazy the whole night and woke up at 189lb. too much water really works the other way - you lean out. i was quickly back in the 190s because i was very thirsty this morning. i'm feeling a lot better now. no more headache.

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Fri 4:00pm
Feb 8, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 425s
315,365,405,440x1 BW 188-192lb
425 x1 x1

Chins
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - Maintenanceoo
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495 x20 | leg press

* yes, i used a vacation day instead of a call-in-sick. they are 2 different things. i have accumulated a large amount of vacation hours already that is why i use them. i could take 6 weeks off from work with the hours i've saved. my company treats us very well, i will not abuse the benefits. thats that.
* BW to 194-196 has to wait for another 1-2 weeks. this week was a struggle with this dehydration thing. 440x1 was again routine but the backoff 425s are feeling heavier and heavier. i will be stronger tmrw as i am already drinking and eating better.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 07, 2013, 09:55:19 am »
Thur 7:00am
Feb 7, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 405s

315 x1 x1 x1
365 x0
405 x0 x0

Chin
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - BW pull to sternum
- BW x0

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x0

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 405lb x0 - 45 deg seated sled

* workout at home. tired from the work night.

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Thur 4:00pm
Feb 7, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 425s
315,365,405,440x1 BW 188-192lb
425 x2 | 1.1

Chins
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - Maintenanceoo
- BW x0

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x0

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495 x0 | leg press
 
* have cold allergy. benadryl took care of the running nose but left me with a headache. caffeine not as effective this afternoon. just did the squats and left gym. quads felt sluggish on the 315,365s.. i usually just overpower the 315s in the afternoon.. today i felt some resistance already from my first set. started to feel better at 405. 440x1 was routine again. i've been lifting this top set for almost 3 weeks now. my BW is not jumping much from the 190-192s. don't even have good appetite now.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 06, 2013, 10:34:32 am »
Wed 6:00am
Feb 6, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 405s

315 x1 x1 x1
365 x0
405 x0 x0

Chin
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - BW pull to sternum
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 405lb x20 - 45 deg seated sled

* lowerback tired. its also very cold. from low-mid 50s down to 39-42F this morning. the 315s felt good but will really burn out if i put something heavier without allowing the erector chain to recover some more. strong post workout meal and another set of 6-8hr daytime sleep. slept 8:30pm-5:30am last night. work night starts tonight til friday. short 3 day week. sucks that my back got beat like this. if i still feel weak later, i'l skip the backoff sets for now.
* leg press calf raise - will try 495x20 clustered in 10s next time. 405s too light now

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Wed 4:00pm
Feb 6, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 430s
315,365,405,440x1 BW 188-192lb
425 x2 x2 | 1.1

Chins
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - Maintenance
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 495 x20 | leg press
 
* slept 8:30am-11:30am-2:30pm. was not looking forward to lifting 440 this afternoon as i was already having a hard time getting out of bed. my lowerback is strained somewhere. annoying but nothing close to an injury. i actually lifted stronger today than yesterday. a smooth 440x1 and decided to take it easy on the backoff sets. IMO, 430s are too heavy at this time. 425s hit the spot. single, rack for 60secs.. another single. 5 mins. repeat. do this loading until i get my diet to catch up and take me to the 194-196BW.
*  495x20 leg press calf raise felt like 405s until the 16th rep.. it became painful but nothing that will require a reset.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« on: February 06, 2013, 07:23:51 am »
i have a large bone structure. measured elbow breadth is almost 3.5".  ;D

other bone structure measurement - wrist 7.5", ankle 10.5".
 

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« on: February 05, 2013, 05:23:58 pm »
Isn't doing that outside the rack just a tad "too dangerous"? :P

oly training for almost 2 years in my college days. dumping the bar is nothing new.

update on my cows... 192BW this week.. defined with blood pipes.. got to 17s. no, the tape measure is not folded on the other side. i might be able to get to mid-high 17s if i go boss volumes again.. something like a leg press 495x20s multi sets to 100reps/workout.




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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 05, 2013, 08:56:49 am »
How are you able to progress in your squats. what strategies do you use.
Thanks

progressive resistance with more emphasis the backoff sets than the top set, low rep/high sets + caloric excess + lots of sleep.

Tue 6:00am
Feb 5, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 405s

315 x1 x1
365 x1
405 x1 x1

Chin
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - BW pull to sternum
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 405lb x20 - 45 deg seated sled

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Tue 4:00pm
Feb 5, 2013

Dynamic warmups - loaded paused rep full squats, paused reps backup
Submax Volumes Goal 430s
315,365,405,440x1 BW 188-192lb
430 x1 x1

Chins
Full ROM - Neutral Grip - Maintenance
- BW x10

Dip
Full ROM - Shoulder Width
- BW x20

Daily Calf Raise Smith - paused reps top/bottom holds - Maintenance
Heavy -  Low Sets / High Volume - Clustered Reps
- 405 x20 | leg press
 
* i feel weaker today. the 4 singles of the backoff 430s yesterday did some damage. the 440x1 went up like routine again without any issues. not mentally ready to lift a 445-455x1 because my BW is still hovering in the 190-192s. i want to be at least at 194-196 before i add more to my top set. i don't want to fatigue too fast.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 04, 2013, 09:53:22 pm »
15lbs in about 8 weeks? 2lb gain a week? i would have put on too much fat at that speed. great genetics man! this time around, im going to try gaining just 2lbs a month.

how fast did you lose the weight?

caffeine worked well for controlling my appetite. i still follow the same macros.. high fat+protein, no simple sugar and only big carb source is brown rice. i'm not leaning at this time yet. im stuffing myself with ~ 1500-2000kcal 2x/day. lol

for the weight loss, i will kill the carbs and drown myself with lots of water. that really leans me out.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 04, 2013, 09:12:24 pm »
word, difference noted. by back extensions do you mean on a 45-degree hyper thingy? like the top pic here:
or on a GHR machine?

GHR bench i have at home.

holy shit when are you going to test your vert man?

when i get to 455x1 top set, i might lower my carb intake (brown rice) again to lean out to the 8%ish BF while maintaining my strength. i'l do more jumping/test when i'm leaner.

right now, its all about the squat poundage to 455x1 and BW to the mid-high 190s. i was actually surprised that i did not gain too much fat going from low-mid 170s to low 190s im ~ 7-8 weeks. abs still visible (although i can really feel the thicker fat in there, but still the soft kind of fat), and the blood pipes in my calves/arms are still there.

my weight gain is so simple but it worked really well..  from 0 rice per meal to 2 cups a meal. i eat 2x/day post workout. 9am/6pm.   

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 04, 2013, 05:12:56 pm »
yeah but you're up near where your squat was before and IIRC you hadn't done the super-heavy calf raises until the last however many months. did you just do GHR/back extensions before, or did you have some isometric work in before, too?

GHR/backextension as accessories lifts did not change much after i get to rep 135s. no heavy smith calf raises until mid-late 2012. the heaviest i've used before was with the supra max half squats at 515-525s x2

yes, i was able to lift 440 before (445max), but those were inconsistent peak lifts that i can do 1-2/week (if everything goes well) and rest 2-3 days in between.  i've been lifting this 440 daily for almost 2 weeks now.


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