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Mixed Martial Arts / Re: Misc MMA News
« on: June 26, 2017, 02:32:15 am »
Fedor TKO'd

https://streamable.com/jljwo

Crazy fight. Almost a double knockout. Fedor just couldn't recover fast enough.

Disappointed for Fedor as he's pretty much my all time favourite. He's taken so much punishment over the years, especially in all those crazy Pride fights he had. Should have stayed retired.

yeah, epic pride fights. i'll never forget when he survived that tombstone slam on his neck by randleman.. I doubt anyone forgets that. Unreal fight to watch live. Pride had the best "production".

He should have fought more in his prime though, after pride. If he did, he wouldn't really need to be fighting now. I mean maybe he just enjoys it but.. he was a legit threat at the top of the HW division in UFC, if he would have started fighting soon after Pride was bought out.. he took way too much time before fighting again, then had a bunch of rough fights in strike force.

interesting to see how his career turned out.. i wonder if he doubted himself or something? I don't get it. He was a "god" in MMA. His legacy has definitely been tarnished by so many losses/lack of fights following pride.

Yeah I miss Pride. I even miss the Bushido production pro wrestling that ran before pride that was fixed but was still super violent. That and K1 at the time was just so good.

I can only assume he had massive issues with contracts and America. I know there was huge involvement from the Yakuza in Pride so there may have been issues with that and signing on with an American production. I love listening to Bas Rutten and Mauro Ranallo talk about those days. So much knowledge there.

Yeah he was a God. Should have just left it. Same with Sakuraba. The dude had so many legendary fights and has come back again and again with less than stellar results.

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Mixed Martial Arts / Re: Misc MMA News
« on: June 25, 2017, 09:57:52 pm »
Fedor TKO'd

https://streamable.com/jljwo

Crazy fight. Almost a double knockout. Fedor just couldn't recover fast enough.

Disappointed for Fedor as he's pretty much my all time favourite. He's taken so much punishment over the years, especially in all those crazy Pride fights he had. Should have stayed retired.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: June 22, 2017, 10:20:03 pm »
Hapkido class last night. Surprisingly my dynamic flexibility is still there. Axe kicks easily getting above the head and near vertical. Worked through all my black belt material without too much fuss although I forgot a bit here and there. Got a red belt to throw me about at the end of the class which felt good too. 1hr 45 mins of training and done. Great to be back.

Haven't done much this week as I've been battling a cold and the class last night put me over the edge. Uncontrollable chills and aching, sore throat, etc. All that good stuff. Will rest up and get a lift in at some stage on the weekend depending on how I'm feeling.

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- GMB F1 W9 D2
right wrist started bothering me during cartwheels. floor kips were shit again today after feeling last time like i'd figured out a way to progress. mental block is strong, very frustrated.

Man that sucks about the kips. I know "just keep at it" is not necessarily what you want to hear but I recall chasing this for years and only getting it consistently after a lot of practice.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: June 20, 2017, 11:49:48 pm »
Dropped in on my old hapkido instructor who manages a karate school now. Got on the mats with him for an hour doing some striking for about 20 mins then groundwork for the rest of the time. Was great to get back into it but this just highlighted how unfit I am. Was gassed after about 5 minutes.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 18, 2017, 11:39:26 pm »
Maybe Floyd will bet his entire net worth against himself, right before the fight.. then take a dive, and become a trillionaire.  :trollface:

Genius!

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 18, 2017, 06:04:32 pm »
what in the world? the public is betting more and more on mcgregor? do they know something we don't?

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19664207/sportsbooks-sees-flurry-square-bets-conor-mcgregor-fight-floyd-mayweather

but the big bettors are still on mayweather, but in total more $ is going for mcgregor

could this be a david vs goliath situation or bunny vs the tortoise?

Don't know the boxing v mma scene in the US but mma is definitely more popular here so there's probably a whole generation who aren't familiar with Floyd or are just that enamoured with Conor that they think he will win.

Then again, maybe he will win... :trollface:

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 17, 2017, 09:24:34 pm »
The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

Damitt! Here we go again lol.

Man I know Mayweather's going to win and do it easily. It's just disappointing if there'll be no contest. I hope McGregor at least puts up something decent.

I do think though if anyone's going to cross over CM is a pretty good choice.

Maybe Nate Diaz would be a better choice, since he outboxed CM & basically KO'd him in their first fight ...  :trollface:

Honestly though, Nate & Nick Diaz would probably fare better against most boxers than CM even though they are way slower, IMHO.. Nick Diaz for example, is more of a pure boxer with superb condition & a granite chin, he actually has one pro boxing win also (1-0).

As slick as CM is in the Octagon, in boxing, if you can't get a guy out early with that slickness & you're known for fading, a good boxer will suck you into the middle/later rounds and when you're drowning, will try and destroy you. CM fits that mold IMHO.. Very impressive, fast, slick in the first few rounds - but when he faced Nate Diaz who is a slow, non stop, granite chin boxer, he got worn down in literally one round. By the second round he was getting caught easy, which resulted in him getting rocked & choked out.

I'd expect the Nate/Nick prototype to do better than most MMA fighters in pro boxing.. Not at all against elites, but against lesser opposition. Good technique (great jabs, throw punches while defending simultaneously, good movement), granite chins, superb conditioning, can withstand tons of punishment, and just keep coming.. They'd be the kind of guys you'd put up & comer boxers up against early on, to give the fans an exciting fight.

pC!

Don't forget the weight difference. CM goes up two weight classes and probably gets in the cage 15 pounds lighter than Diaz who has superb conditioning, great boxing and even better jiu-jitsu.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 17, 2017, 07:06:10 pm »
The only discussion should be about how this shouldn't be a discussion... :ninja: lmao. *watches Coges get triggered to play devil's advocate* :)

Damitt! Here we go again lol.

Man I know Mayweather's going to win and do it easily. It's just disappointing if there'll be no contest. I hope McGregor at least puts up something decent.

I do think though if anyone's going to cross over CM is a pretty good choice.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:28:23 am »
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

hah ya. nice lmao.

i imagine everyone remembers that first "bell rung" experience.. it's hard to forget. It's literally out of one of those war movies where an explosion goes off, and you hear that high pitch ringing, and time slows down, and you're just getting wrecked & can't respond properly.. lmao.

time slowing down + feeling like you're moving in slow motion + high pitch ringing + someone trying to kill you = bad combo.

Haha. Yes exactly. Thb almost the most alive I've ever felt. That surge of adrenaline that came with the first one followed by the swimming in molasses feeling that came with the second was truly bizarre.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:22:29 am »
Lol, but a random would probably fair much better in regular boxing than kick boxing, did you know how to kick?

Yeah I was a pretty good kicker but not a great boxer. Still not a great boxer.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:59:46 pm »
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

It's just so hard to play devil's advocate in this case tho.. hah.

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I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

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@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

I'd actually pay for that as well.. lmao.

It's fun to watch people step into the ring for the first time, in a real sparring match.. No matter how tough they look/seem, it never goes well if they are going in there with someone who has some experience. hah.

First time I did kickboxing I was 18 and they put me in the ring with a 15 year old who'd been training since he was a child. I was bigger, stronger, probably faster too but got my bell rung twice in the first few minutes. That really wakes you up.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 10:25:20 pm »
@adarq man solid points. I pretty much agree with you for the most part. The thing that's getting me is everyone giving Conor no chance. It makes me devil's advocate by proxy.

I'm just so interested to see how he comes out for the fight. He can't stand with the open MMA stance he has. But he's an awkward, unique mover so for me it's interesting. I will definitely be watching.

@fastdoeslie hahahahahahahaha Yeah you go and have a boxing match with McGregor. I would buy that PPV.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: June 15, 2017, 09:58:47 pm »
15/06/2017
bw- 90.7
Injuries- none
Soreness- none

Warm up- skipping, cat/camel, scap PU, wrists, monster walks

Wide Grip RDL- bar x 5, 60 x 5
DL- 90 x 5, 110 x 3, 130 x 5 (double overhand)

Frog Stand- 5s, 20s, 9s, 8s, 18s

Pretty good session. Deadlifts were pretty easy but needed to change to mixed grip for last two reps. They were ugly and I was holding the bar in my fingertips only on the left hand. Will get back on the hook grip bandwagon too as I'll need this given the past injuries to that hand.

Frog stand was really good. Found a good spot on two sets and this felt super solid...on two sets that is.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: June 15, 2017, 08:40:03 pm »
Mcgregor has never fought more than five rounds in ufc rules, how will he survive in a sport which is more physically demanding.

Have you watched any MMA? You do realise that these guys wrestle each other, get kicked, thrown around, pressed up against the cage, and then punched on top of that. To call that less physically demanding than boxing is a stretch at best.

Also, never fought more than 5 rounds. 5x5 minute rounds that is. 

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