Got a question for you,
So we both get wrecked calves from FF running, and it's probably one of the limiting factors in my endurance atm...my calves simply give up after a while. Would it be worth doing high rep bw calf raises to give them some extra stimulus to get stronger/improved muscular endurance and if so how would you work this around running without completely destroying your calves all the time!
Be interested to hear your thoughts!
yo!
well, i had finally adapted a while ago.. but then i took a few months off from it.. then i tried to jump right back in and got wrecked. so we def can adapt, takes time.. that also assumes our form isn't "incorrect" in the sense that we are overloading our calves too much by an incorrect strike. When I adapted, calves wouldn't give out at all.
if you see a few sessions ago, I did TONS of calf raises.. calves still sore ~3+ days after that session. so ya, i'm actually attempting that. I'm going to do alot more isolation work on my calves to see if it will help.
As for how to approach it, i've been running alot less lately due to my left calf/hamstring injury. So, it's given me time to throw in some of this assistance work, because all I can really do is rest. My plan is to just "adapt" to the high volume calve raises. Several weeks ago I did high volume lunges and my legs/glutes were destroyed for a week. I've been performing hundreds of lower body reps via squats, lunges, stepups, bridges etc the last few sessions.. barely any soreness. So i've adapted there. I need to achieve those same kinds of adaptations with my calves. I figure one or two more sessions might be able to do it... UNLESS they are just so unbelievably weak, which is a possibility.
I think the only real solution is to drop running frequency to a point where you can get in the calf assistance volume until it doesn't affect you. Then gradually bring the volume back. I just don't know if it's worth it yet... I predict it will be, there's no reason a few hundred calf raises should leave my destroyed for 4+ days. For example I probably did 80-100 total dips yesterday and soreness is microscopic. I've just neglected certain muscle groups way too much, it's disappointing.
You could also approach it via:
- high frequency / lower volume.. in the sense of 'activation'
- following your runs
I think it's worth a shot, at least ~2x/week. I mean ideally we should be making sure every link in the chain retains some kind of strength stimulus at least 2x/wk. Simply running doesn't seem to be enough. I'm amazed at how much weaker my calves got, even though my running volume was decent.
That's my plan right now with this upper+lower calisthenics stuff i'm doing.. I need to address every weakness, every joint movement... the fact that I wasn't doing calve raises (various forms) over the last several months, is a lazy oversight & now i'm paying for it.

When do your calves "give up"? At what point/time/distance?
Have you tried a flat foot strike? Or even heel->toe but landing basically underneath your hips or ever-so-slightly in front? I can run all day with those forms, and they don't bug my knees and such.. feel very stable.
pc!