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another weird dream last night.. walking through the city, very desolate.. then I get to this fork in the road, but, it's pitch black.. you can't see where either road leads.. so I pick the left route, just dead trees everywhere, but still can barely see, even with a flash light. then out of nowhere it leads to someone's back yard. I'm actually fenced in, in their yard, and come upon a wooden gate.. so i open the gate and as i walk out, i'm in this really well off community that has x-mas lights and ornaments everywhere. so i just walked around checking out the scenery.

i'm dreaming more lately it seems.. could be that i'm going to bed late, yet still getting an adequate amount of sleep. dno

Quote from: adarqui on March 24, 2016, 03:45:12 am

Quote from: seifullaah73 on March 23, 2016, 06:06:31 pm

hey

I decided to expand on my programming skills to increase chance of employability by learning different python frameworks, I have learned python itself but am going to try and learn 3 of the many frameworks django, flask and pyramid. any advice on making the learning easier, how to follow tutorials, so to learn instead of memorizing it. it is the first time I would be dwelling into web development. the things you have to do.

nice!

well, web stuff is my arch enemy.. i excel more at non-gui backend stuff. but i guess the same techniques apply.

one thing I like to do is find some simple code out there on github, download it, get it to run, then start to pick it apart. So, it could be some simple web app in flask for example. Now, instead of reading a tutorial and simply implementing it verbatim, you now have to do more investigative work. You can also go back through the commit history and "unravel it from the beginning". It's hard to do this with big apps, so find small tools/repositories and read the code, but also mess around with it, making tweaks and such.

I always have some project I implement when learning a new language, or in your case, framework. For most people it's a TODO app (TodoMvc) etc. For backend stuff it could be file parsers, irc bots, etc. As for TodoMVC, you'll probably be interested in this if you havn't found it already:

http://www.todobackend.com/

they have backend versions of todo apps written in the frameworks you mentioned. Those would be a good resources. Also, i've done that todo-backend exercise in a few languages, it's actually worth it. They have some nice test page where you give them the url to your app, and it piece by piece helps you code it in a TDD (test driven development) style. So they ask you to respond to a GET / with all todos, and you implement it. Then they give you the next task.

I guess the common theme in those two approaches is the "do/tinker" technique. Memorization is very important, it allows you to just fly through a project when you don't have to check the docs. But in the early stages, writing a small project from scratch where you can't "easily cheat yourself" by looking up the answers, is important imho.

Tutorials are good though too.. After you've messed around and completed some small projects, just going on a tutorial binge can open up all kinds of new ideas/techniques that would have taken you so much longer to find. So I like binging on tutorials, just spending all day going through tons of them and jotting down things I want to really look into.

Lastly, i'd watch/star a few active repositories in github that cover what you are trying to improve. That way you get email notifications and such when people accept pull requests etc. You want to read commits to those projects daily. Even if you don't understand the architecture of the project, you just want to read those commits to pick up on things people who are professional with those frameworks are doing (their style, comments, techniques, tricks, libraries they use etc).

let me know if that helps! that's my 2 cents on it.

pc!

That was really helpful, thanks.

cool!

I didn't realize it was your arch enemy, the way you run and maintain this site, the coding and everything.
pc 

ya but i'm using popular forum software called SMF. most everything I code is backend/non-web stuff. My only real web project is making this site my own code. It's fun, but more difficult for me than it should be. Lots of backend programmers "suffer" from this, from what i've seen (and met irl). They just want nothing to do with graphical user interfaces and such.

the first search result:

http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/40590/why-do-some-programmers-hate-the-ui-part-of-the-development/40597

and there's only so many times one can put a checkbox on the screen before going slightly mental. And that's not even touching on spending hours aligning pixels "just so".

ya.. aligning pixels = hell. which is odd, because I like aligning my code when I format it as I write it.. and i like using pretty printers for console output such as Text.PrettyPrint in haskell. When interfacing with things, I just like raw text/command line tools alot more than anything I would do in a browser or on a phone etc.

on a fun note.. I registered antigui.{net,org,com} several years ago, but havn't put up a site for it.. which makes sense, since it's called antigui. lololol.

pc!

What does "he was very twisted" mean?

in a nutshell, a homicidal psycho. HEH!

did anyone see the @midnight fake presidential debate between fake-trump and fake-sanders on comedy central? epic!@$ was damn good.. 1 hour long fake debate, worth checking out.

woke up at 2PM.. crap.



03/23/2016

Bio: Morning

sleep = 8 hours
wakeup = 2 PM
bw = 151 lb.
morning resting heart rate = didn't measure
soreness = quads slightly
aches = right tennis elbow barely
injuries = toenails wrekt
feel = tired



Food

2 PM

- greek yogurt
- orange juice
- banana



Food

4 PM

- chicken sandwich
- some squash medley
- hot mint tea
- biscotti



Food

8 PM

- 2 x veggie egg rolls from whole foods (solid)
- bunch of blue corn chips
- red kidney beans with serrano pepper + garlic (could have done without the garlic)
- water w/ lemon
- a few chocolates


Food

12 AM

- hot mint tea
- biscotti



Food

2 AM

- water w/ lemon
- greek yogurt

some stretching



Food

4:51 AM
- damn im starving

- banana
- 2 x wheat bread w/ butter



legs feel pretty good.. tired as hell today tho. trying to get better with this purescript-halogen framework, destroying my brain.

pc!

hey

I decided to expand on my programming skills to increase chance of employability by learning different python frameworks, I have learned python itself but am going to try and learn 3 of the many frameworks django, flask and pyramid. any advice on making the learning easier, how to follow tutorials, so to learn instead of memorizing it. it is the first time I would be dwelling into web development. the things you have to do.

nice!

well, web stuff is my arch enemy.. i excel more at non-gui backend stuff. but i guess the same techniques apply.

one thing I like to do is find some simple code out there on github, download it, get it to run, then start to pick it apart. So, it could be some simple web app in flask for example. Now, instead of reading a tutorial and simply implementing it verbatim, you now have to do more investigative work. You can also go back through the commit history and "unravel it from the beginning". It's hard to do this with big apps, so find small tools/repositories and read the code, but also mess around with it, making tweaks and such.

I always have some project I implement when learning a new language, or in your case, framework. For most people it's a TODO app (TodoMvc) etc. For backend stuff it could be file parsers, irc bots, etc. As for TodoMVC, you'll probably be interested in this if you havn't found it already:

http://www.todobackend.com/

they have backend versions of todo apps written in the frameworks you mentioned. Those would be a good resources. Also, i've done that todo-backend exercise in a few languages, it's actually worth it. They have some nice test page where you give them the url to your app, and it piece by piece helps you code it in a TDD (test driven development) style. So they ask you to respond to a GET / with all todos, and you implement it. Then they give you the next task.

I guess the common theme in those two approaches is the "do/tinker" technique. Memorization is very important, it allows you to just fly through a project when you don't have to check the docs. But in the early stages, writing a small project from scratch where you can't "easily cheat yourself" by looking up the answers, is important imho.

Tutorials are good though too.. After you've messed around and completed some small projects, just going on a tutorial binge can open up all kinds of new ideas/techniques that would have taken you so much longer to find. So I like binging on tutorials, just spending all day going through tons of them and jotting down things I want to really look into.

Lastly, i'd watch/star a few active repositories in github that cover what you are trying to improve. That way you get email notifications and such when people accept pull requests etc. You want to read commits to those projects daily. Even if you don't understand the architecture of the project, you just want to read those commits to pick up on things people who are professional with those frameworks are doing (their style, comments, techniques, tricks, libraries they use etc).

let me know if that helps! that's my 2 cents on it.

pc!

I dont know what that means but... Yay!

ha

Quote from: vag on March 22, 2016, 05:41:25 am

Full disclosure, I have an online training site where we train pro and college athletes and some amateurs.

sick!

Though I think ADARQ should be paid handsomely for his work I respect that he wants to keep his site free

thanks! I think my "open source software roots" have alot to do with it. I love the concept of no ads & good quality "free" communities. I'm not really an active s&c coach anymore. I'm more of a programmer + wannabe athlete + adarq.org community member. My plan for years now has been to build up this site and add more features etc, but i've never had the time.. until recently. So hoping to make some improvements over the next few months.

so when I open up my online services I'll make things free to posting ADARQ members and it will just be another resource for you guys to get articles and training ideas (and to help me test!).  If he reads this and has a problem with me even mentioning what I am doing I won't talk about it again...

sick! can't wait to see the site (I searched, couldn't find it, not up yet?)

no problem at all, totally cool with it. I'd have a problem with it if you were promoting squatflex.. but I seriously doubt that's going to happen. :f I'm totally cool with people on here (and coaches like yourself) mentioning their sites, sharing articles, attracting interest etc. In the end, it's all about sharing information & improving.

Also that offer to members of this site is a great gesture and is much appreciated.

peace!