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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: August 02, 2016, 11:35:45 am »
7/31

Biking with some intense intervals, Leg stretches, Light plyo's

8/1

Lean-in 3-step acceleration x8
Staggered stance starts x8
Starts out of a pushup position x8
Light sled (40-50lbs) 40y runs x8, heavy sled (220lbs) x1
40-50y sprints x5

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTyIBHyLhOY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTyIBHyLhOY</a>

Noticed my buddy internally rotates his right leg when he runs, where he injured his ACL. I have a similar problem where I sometimes externally rotate my left leg where I have minor impingement, but I haven't noticed it lately. My high school track coach said it's not a huge deal. Some of the starts were definitely faster than others, I'm starting to figure out how acceleration is a taught skill: it seems to be about getting body lean as fast as possible without your first step being too far where your leg absorbs too much impact and puts you off balance. The other extreme would be stepping too close and starting slow because there won't be as much body lean.

You DO NOT NEED drive phase to run fast. 

That's said you don't produce enough power for a body lean you have a torso lean which is not useful.  You need to forget about acceleration being a taught skill for now.  Your just not there yet.  You are extremely tight trying to keep your elbow from breaking 90 - it should break 90 especially on a start...  And your taking about 10 steps to cover 10 yards.   Get to a track.  Seven steps to 10 meters.  If you aren't close to there you are under striding severely - you are cause you don't produce power.  All you should think about right now is power.  Alt leg bounding, then speed bounding, then sprinting which shouldn't feel all that different is the path you need to get on...

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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up

- skater jump x 20,20

- one-step RVJ x 5

*remove vest*

- DLRVJ dunk attempts x ~15
got a buddy to throw lobs. put one through the net but kind of bobbled the ball in, doesn't quite count. close on a few others. timing is hard. kind of messed up my shoulder on the 12th or 13th jump and couldn't get up quite as high after that so called it.

- one-on-one x 20 mins
i lost, lol. blame it on the tired legs.

gonna play tennis with my dad in a couple hours.

- tennis x 60 mins
whipped my dad, 6-1 (and the 1 was mostly unforced errors). this is as it should be, i'm 35 years younger than he is. it was hot as shit, i have a headache now. similar to one i got a few weeks back after sweating like crazy in the gym earlier in the day. i was vigilant about hydration today, too.

Have you ever had or gotten close to having some sort of heat stroke/exhaustion?  I was extremely close to having it at the academy just from standing in line nut to butt with everyone in a 95 degree building(Prisons aren't air conditioned).  After almost passing out, if I'm in the heat doing anything for a bit I start to get a sick feeling and this is a year or so after and I still get it.

I'm the same way.  I get sunstroke or heatstroke very easily.  I think some people are more susceptible than others.  I mixed so I'm not super fair skinned but I have never gotten a sunburn in my life... I think part of the reason why is I get heatstroke before I burn so I can't really get enough exposure.  When I was in Puerto Rico we were on the beach for hours and it was really hot and sunny -I figured this was gonna be my first sunburn experience but instead I got really dizzy and disoriented after a few hours and had to go lie down in the shade and pour cold water on my face...

It's pretty scary but now I know the signs and can avoid getting to that level but I don't think sunburns are in the cards either way...

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I think the best bounce for bounce balls are the cheap rubber ones. You can get them super inflated and they bounce like crazy. Not ideal to play with but as a lob only ball.

Speaking of balls  :o what is the best ball for general play and palming in your guys opinion? I have had good experiences with the molten G7 and certain Wilson balls but need to find the grippiest ball out there.

Everyone here uses Wilson evolution.  When it's just slightly deflated it's great and about the only ball I can palm for lefty dunks.  Also Wilson wave is easy to palm but I not great for dribbling...

If I invent a lobbing machine will LBSS buy it? Man I saw a 5'3 (legit) guy dunk off a beautiful self lob and taped it... Amazing.

https://youtu.be/vHD6OHbE2Qs

If that isn't the perfect self lob I don't know what is...

i use the wilson CIS, which is supposed to be the wilson evolution, but it feels a bit different. i just pump it up to the max and its fine for lobbing though. i also have the wilson solution, but i never use it now because it doesnt bounce as well as the CIS.

and isnt that guy 5'2? wish there were more footage of him, hes putting it in pretty easily too.

?taken-by=lowlife.will

I saw him at a summer league here... I dunno 5'2, 5'3.  He is legit tiny.  I mean he is so short that exaggerating down makes some sense - I guess all the matters is his reach - does have long arms but still has less than a 7 foot reach... I mean he can jump for sure. 

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I think the best bounce for bounce balls are the cheap rubber ones. You can get them super inflated and they bounce like crazy. Not ideal to play with but as a lob only ball.

Speaking of balls  :o what is the best ball for general play and palming in your guys opinion? I have had good experiences with the molten G7 and certain Wilson balls but need to find the grippiest ball out there.

Everyone here uses Wilson evolution.  When it's just slightly deflated it's great and about the only ball I can palm for lefty dunks.  Also Wilson wave is easy to palm but I not great for dribbling...

If I invent a lobbing machine will LBSS buy it? Man I saw a 5'3 (legit) guy dunk off a beautiful self lob and taped it... Amazing.

https://youtu.be/vHD6OHbE2Qs

If that isn't the perfect self lob I don't know what is...

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i put up more shots yesterday and the last 4 weeks combined than i have in like 10 years before that excluding the month. crazy. but hopefully once my muscles get stronger and adapted i'll be a more reliable shooter. right now once fatigue sets in my form goes to naught and behaves erratically. more strength and mass in the right places (upper body mainly) will help a ton. i shud be aiming to curl 60kg for reps in the weight room this quarter. go for that kobe bicep size .. like 16-17" wud be real nice. anyway pipe dream (ha) aside, i do need more endurance than size. i can shoot with decent form from the free throw line to the rim on the other side of the court, teh guys were remarking how effortlessly i can shoot from distance with just upper body .. so endurance will be more useful to me than size tbh but both are good

Decent form on the full court shot?  Video it.  That's more impressive than a 45 inch vertical.

Lol at the curl goals. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Party's Over!
« on: July 21, 2016, 09:53:29 am »
we are amateurs who are dedicated and push ourselves but without proper supervision (mostly), sleep (lots of us -- especially the guys with kids), and prehab. and in a lot of cases suboptimal nutrition.

 :highfive: :strong:

That's why I'm in awe of the dedication and lack of excuses some of the people on the board display.  I mean you CAN balance work and life and training.  But there is not much margin for error.  Impressive to see the progress people here make despite the challenges. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: July 20, 2016, 02:43:26 am »
I mean specifically running on a track.  But honestly I don't know if I would jump to the diagnosis you did - that your torso rotates so you need anti-rotation core exercises...

Most anti rotation exercises are pallof press variations - all these target fighting rotation when the shoulder moves.  This isn't the problem in sprinting - it's not that your core is too weak to resist your arm swing (in fact you want slight core rotation with arm spring when your sprint) it is far more likely your problem is weak glutes

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: July 19, 2016, 06:29:27 pm »
Just hit a 3-step L-SLRVJ  :personal-record: of 31", previous best 27.5"!!!!! Just completely ridiculous. Also 2" higher than my 3-step R-SLRVJ PR. WHAT.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87STQIKA8ZA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87STQIKA8ZA</a>

BW: 184

possible reasons for this PR:
-started session with 20-30 SLRVJ's out of a 30m sprint, hitting 20"-25" on most of these jumps. The 25"s I slowed down a lot for.
-jumping barefoot, first time jumping barefoot with SLRVJ
-starting in athletic position, letting my body fall forward like a sprinting drill

Seriously. What the fuck.

About core training, any thoughts on anti-rotation exercises? I notice my torso rotates considerably when I run.

Do you play frisbee in cleats?  Do you need to be able to jump in cleats? 

Do you have a video of yourself running?  We have hijacked the hell out of your journal discussing core exercises! 

Best anti rotation exercise is running curves. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: July 19, 2016, 02:59:48 pm »
I also fucked up my back with heavy weighted sit ups so I don't wanna risk it anymore. One of the best exercises in my opinion are heavy carries with db's, kb's or even normal farmers handles if available. You can a lot of different variations. Like heavy load in both hands. Heavy load in one hand on the side and the other weight over head. Both hands overhead etc. Just grab some weights and walk... simple but very effective and imho a lot more "functional" than doing leg raises or decline situps...

Functional?  Functional if you training to be a strongman or to carry heavy things, sure.  Functional if your goal is to run fast?  Not so much.  Core strength in sprinting and jumping is about being stiff to allow you to transfer power - watch Justin Gatlin torso stay extremely stiff and still while his legs produce tons of power...  Heavy farmers walks have the weight in your hands - this doesn't make sense for sprinters.

my n=1 is that heavy weighted decline situps fuck up my back if i do them too frequently or too intensely. much prefer toes-to-bar; ab wheel rollouts also good.

Obviously LBSS makes a point.  We are all N=1.  There is no must do exercise.  If an exercise causes injury to your body you don't need to do it.  There are great athletes who don't do lots of exercises.  As blasphemous as it sounds you can even become a great athlete with squats! 

However, there are a few exercises that do past the "ability test".  What I mean by that is not that you must use it as a training tool but that in my observation of sprinters where N == A LOT - I have seen very very very few fast athletes who cannot execute it well if given time to acclimate to it.  Obviously this is a continuum.  Some sprinters can bench press a great deal but I have seen many sprinters who can't bench press much at all even when given time to learn the exercise.  For squats this is less true.   Two of the exercises I find to be by far the most correlated with sprinting speed are:

1) Heavy overhead backwards shot tosses 
2) Weighted decline situps

I don't mean all sprinters train with these exercises.  But show me a sprinter who runs 10.5 and is given a mens shot put and shown how to throw it backwards and cannot throw it 15 yards and I will be shocked.  I haven't seen one.  Dan Pfaff goes further with this and claims it actually is extremely strongly correlated in female** sprinters and he gives specific speed and shot throw distance relationships. 

For decline situps I am talking about the following exercise.  Grab a 45lb barbell.  Hold it behind your back like a backsquat*.  Get in a 45 degree decline bench and keep your abs and back tight and lower controlled till you touch your upper back only to the bench and rise back up to sitting.  Flex hip flexors to bring body up.  Yes it is an ab and hip flexor exercise.  They are a team!  Most people cannot do even one rep.  Almost all good sprinters can bang out 5-10 of these the first time they learn it. 

* It's important that you hold the bar like this.  Not just cause it makes it harder but because it saves your back.  When you hold weight across your chest its natural to bend at the spine to bring your upper torso up to your legs and fold your body over.  This is what messes up your back.  Having the bar in back squat  position doesn't take the back out of it but IMO it makes it obvious when failure should be (the point where you can't do more reps without wrenching your back). 

** While Dan Pfaffs claims seem almost too specific it does not surprise me that he finds a better relationship for females.  Men often ruin exercises because they are strong.  There are probably men whose massive upper body strength allows them to throw a shot far behind their head despite no hip strength which probably ruins this relationship.  I haven't trained that many women but it really is the key to understanding the relationship between proper strength training and performance.

*** Again, not saying that an exercise is a must do - just adding that there are some exercises that are compelling to try because of their association with performance.  Could be a chicken and egg argument - not proof of anything just food for thought.   Agree with LBSS that toes to bar is a good ab exercise, not a huge proponent of ab wheel.  I would rather have an athlete do toes to bar, weighted and unweighted leg raises on decline bench, and extended push ups...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: July 19, 2016, 09:00:09 am »
why are planks terrible? situps are definitely not "easy" on the back

Because any decent athlete can hold a plank for far too long for it to be at all functional in training.  Side planks are the exception.  In general though static holds are surprisingly not the best way to train abdominals...  Trainers think that because the abdominals obviously play a role as a stabilizer that static holds make sense - the abs can experience continuous tension without keeping the entire body still - this is actually how they act as a stabilizer in what might be the best an exercise of all time - sprinting. 

As far as sit-ups terrible for the back - I don't totally agree.  Sure loading with your back on a decline crunch puts a ton of compressive force on your spine, but then again you can keep your spine straight and bend from your hips - especially of the negative.   Sure, you need a strong back, you need strong hip flexors.  This is why I don't favor them as a volume exercise.  Get your volume in with decline leg raises with a dumbbell.   If an athlete is to do 100 reps of abdominals I'll have them do about 10-20 reps of heavy decline sit-ups or negative holds, then around 50 reps of some leg lift variation, then about 30 reps of some type of static hold or anti extension work...

Far better than a plank is the following.  Do a push-up.  Now do a push-up with your hands together (like a diamond) but in front of your head.  The farther in front of your head (i.e. Straight arms reaching all the way forward) the harder the movement... Now the abs are under tension thoughout the movement which is far better than a plank. 

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and who cares about dunks in games? i do! it's like that saying where something doesnt matter unless you're not getting any then it's everything. when you've never got your first dunk then getting a dunk is everything. that might be your first dunk ever in the case of acole or lbbs or my first game dunk ever .. it's the same thing practically cos you've never done it and you know what it means to finally bridge the chasm ..

Thank you for thinking of the shorter guys! I for one appreciate it.

Agreed...  It's also height and competition dependent...  I'm not trying to look down on entropy... But at his height (6'3'' - 6'4'') in most of the circles I play in it's more of an embarrassment not to be able to dunk than it is to be a badge of honor to be able to dunk.  It's sort of like a question someone will ask a guy of that height (can you dunk?) and if the answer isn't yes it's a shameful sign of being a poor athlete...  The 6'3 guy throwing self lobs between every game of pickup to barely throw one down is not well liked where I play...

However... most of those 6'3'' guys who "can dunk" don't actually get dunks in games.  IMO at that height if you want to do something impressive you can either become a show-dunker (BTL, 360's, etc) OR actually throw down in games.  When a player of any height gets a nice in game dunk you have to take your hat off to them...  Show dunking is cool but it's not gonna make you a better player - so adding in game dunking to your resume is a must! 

I'm just under 6' so at lower levels people are impressed by my ability to dunk and ask me to dunk outside of game situations and on a good day I can throw down a windmill or 180 but it's nothing like dunking in traffic in a game...  At higher levels most everyone approaching 6ft can do something resembling a dunk but few actually dunk in games...   I can't down non-in-game dunks because TBH I'm simply not that good at them and I'm sure if I could do BTL dunks I would do them all the time... But my athleticism and strength is to the point where I far more enjoy my ability to dunk in a game than try and do some dunk I miss 4 out of 5 times over and over again - since I dunk with just 1 step I can do things a lot more impressive in a game than not in a game...



Yep! you got it coges, it's all in the mind, if you think you have enough time you can make it work, overthinking or mentally defeating before even trying is how you never dunk in trafffic. Speaking of, i know you need a good pass and a decent cut and window to make it happen but i do think if you put yourself in situations where it can happen, that it can be a reality.

This is one of my favorite things about dunking...  If you get good enough dunking without speed you can actually use it to become a better player.. When I was very first able to dunk it was all I wanted to do and it made me much worse at basketball...  I could barely dunk off one foot and I neglected practicing my game and instead just wanted to dunk...  When I would play I would try to dunk in games but I needed such a far run up that my only chance was a extreme fast break and I would cherry pick to try to get the chance and usually miss the dunk...

However, if you can dunk off two feet with just a few steps and try and get in game dunks you realize how much easier it is to get dunks off the cut... The first dunk I got on somebody was where a player drove left around the elbow and I circled around him and he dropped it off behind him to me as I cut to the hoop and and rose up and dunked on the help...  Realizing that this was basically the way to get dunks made me start moving without the ball and stop playing as much one-on-one type ball in games... Dunking has both ruined my ability and revitalized my ability to play basketball..

Really all dunking is cool... I'm biased partially cause i am so terrible at throwing self-lobs (thinking of paying Andrew to fly out and give me a lob clinic lol) but for now I really favor the in game dunk...

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79.3kg / 174.8lb  (LPR)

I'm starting to think something holding me back in life is my mind. Time to fake it til i make it

This is the great equalizer. As the Henry Ford saying goes "whether you think you can or you think you can't- you're right"

I like the quote told like this better:

There are two kinds of people in this world.  Those that think they can and those that think they can't.  Both are right. 

My favorite Henry ford quote:

"The American people can have a car of any color they want as long as it's black"

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: July 15, 2016, 11:22:57 am »
So I got video of some more indoor jumps and I'm definitely getting a pretty significant push off the wall.. So my indoor jumping numbers were wrong from the beginning. My 3-step PR of 35.5" was on a BBall court so that still stands.

Since the last update I've had 2 quick squat sessions, 2 league games and 2 DLRVJ sessions. Managed repeatable 34's outdoors today, so hopefully if I squat consistently working up to singles, throw in some depth jumps and more serious glute work I'll hit a PR pretty soon. Additionally I really need to do sprints and core work but I still don't know what makes up a good core workout that will carry over to jumps/change of direction/speed. Before I used to do weighted plank variations but I'm not sure they are effective :/

I have a 2 day tourney this weekend so I'll do some throwing, depth jumps and short sprints tomorrow to prepare

Planks are terrible.

Side plank is alright.

Get on a decline bench. Put bar behind head.  Do sit-ups.  Reverse direction.  Do leg lifts with a heavy db.  Simple

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: July 14, 2016, 11:53:11 am »

i feel like a teenage girl taking pics of my food.. but it's fun.. makes me want to cook healthier EVEN MORE.


Yeah seriously.... But the healthiest I ever ate and the leanest I got was when I had time and motivation to cook and got really into it as a hobby... You bet I was taking pictures nonstop...  While your into cooking really enjoy the great shape you can get into...

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what you are best at, without a doubt, is overthinking your own weaknesses.

Lol.

Pretty true.  Although ironically you might be overthinking and under thinking at the same time which is even more dangerous... 

We have tested all level of players.. And if you do catch and shoot practice from anywhere where you other doesn't matter for accuracy...  The only exceptions is if you are close enough to bank off glass or if your "distance" is NBA three and then corner threes are a lot closer...

What does affect accuracy is dribbling and defense.  For myself if I am passed the ball or in a game have time to pull up do a dribble with my left hand while I step with left then right foot and pull up (referred to as a dribble 1-2 by shooting coaches) then I'm a lot more accurate... Now in a game if I'm moving toward my right I can do this but not the other way... Switch the footwork and it gets hard...

Point is - it's footwork not placement that matters...

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