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Increased recovery
Increased growth of both muscles and tendons
Reduced body fat
Increased collagen synthesis for healthy joints
Increased strength
Increased injury resistance
Able to handle more volume in a training session
Improved ability to maintain pace

I won't argue all your points but one I want your opinion on the most, increased growth of tendons through steroid use.

Something I just pulled from another board regarding steroids and tendons. What do you make of the article tychver?. One sentence remarks: "winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury".

Original Link: http://www.trainwiser.com/f100/steroids-tendons-4839/


Steroids and tendons.
 
While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen synthesis while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS, the decision is up to you.





Yeah. It's scary enough the Alberto Contador's excuse for clenbuterol was seriously fucking plausable.

+1.

Pharmador should have received a 2 year ban. I'm a huge cycling fan & the UCI is corrupt from top to bottom. It's a complete joke.







much longer/better post than mine but thats what i was saying about winstrol...it makes your tendons brittle

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4-Hour Body is a good read when it comes to weight loss.

If I could break down the nutrition summary, it would be to include protein in your breakfast (four eggs or so), and eat greens. Protein can come from lentils, protein shakes, etc.. Also, the author (can't remember the dude's name for the life of me) recommends you to gorge yourself once a week (go easy with breakfast though). This spikes metabolic levels... or something like that.

Know what, I'm just gonna quote the five rules for fat loss here from the book.

Quote

Hope that helps, man.

fun post...good read

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philray is natty. He has progress pics of himself since he started lifting... looks natty, no huge jumps. He's also the oldest and has been working out the longest.

Babo claims he's natty. Skeptical though because he blew up just like zyzz/chestbrah in the same time period and they are open about using gear. Babo says his grandpa or something was some successful bodybuilder or something though so he claims he has very good genetics.

Manlets ftw

None of them are natty. And all of them "look natty". None of them have impressive physiques that you couldn't get naturally.

can we have a rule on this forum to never use the term "natty" again? just such a bro douche bag thing to say



x2

:)

That's because your associating it with a favorite of bros everywhere, natty ice and natty light.

true dat

plus i just keep picturing tanned dudes with waxed eye brows saying"nah bra i'm all natty all natty"

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philray is natty. He has progress pics of himself since he started lifting... looks natty, no huge jumps. He's also the oldest and has been working out the longest.

Babo claims he's natty. Skeptical though because he blew up just like zyzz/chestbrah in the same time period and they are open about using gear. Babo says his grandpa or something was some successful bodybuilder or something though so he claims he has very good genetics.

Manlets ftw

None of them are natty. And all of them "look natty". None of them have impressive physiques that you couldn't get naturally.

can we have a rule on this forum to never use the term "natty" again? just such a bro douche bag thing to say

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Most, if not all of those guys use keto to cut. Granted, some of them are on gear, they still use keto to get them shredded.

inb4 flamed for pic


I've never done keto myself but I did do carb tapering throughout the day and that worked pretty well for me, wasn't very strict either.

those are some purdy girls

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Usain Bolt could be clean, he could also be using/have used drugs, until proven otherwise its not fair to him to label him a cheater.


  Winstrol is a pretty mainstream drug for sprinters, not alot of weight gain, clears quickly, and very popular in power/speed sports.   

i thought winstrol made your tendons brittle? i figured more athletes(who can afford it)would use anavar

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i agree with daniel but i also think you might be lacking explosiveness probably because you haven't been jumping maximally because of your ankle...take some time to do some jump training and depth jumps etc so your body has a chance to use that extra strength you've gained...remember getting stronger gives you the POTENTIAL to jump higher so you still need to fine tune everything

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Who here believes Casey Combest was on the juice throughout his time in the 100m?.

If so, what makes you believe that?.



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh-gP2jc3sA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh-gP2jc3sA</a>


man that dude was faaaaaaaaaaaaast with a million a's

holy jeez! and he like never trained in a real program?

oh and dude you should go read up a little on dieting

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Basketball / Re: Petey Basketball Training
« on: March 28, 2011, 02:05:27 pm »
i just liked your PJ's

your handles are about 100000000000 times as good as mine

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Sometimes, Blake is a drama queen...



...the hell?

x2, wtf?


Yeah I was wondering the same thing, that green dress doesn't suit his pink shirt at all.

thats one strange big white black boy!...my kinda guy

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: March 25, 2011, 01:14:20 am »
heres one of my personal favorites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNFqMd-49s

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: March 25, 2011, 01:12:05 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzj8NrJ5Cws" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzj8NrJ5Cws</a>

that is AMAZINGLY HILARIOUS.. best vid in this thread, by far.


nahh...it's good...but i don't think anything can beat that chinese hurdle video...i laugh so hard every time! i'm laughing just thinking about it!

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Art & Sheeeit / Re: Rene Magritte
« on: March 24, 2011, 11:55:12 am »
magritte is one of my wifes(an in school for art and teaching)favorites

i also am a fan of surrealism

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Art & Sheeeit / Re: Rene Magritte
« on: March 24, 2011, 11:53:46 am »
this is not a pipe

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Calfs
« on: March 24, 2011, 11:34:11 am »
the only iso i ever do is this iso i saw lance post a while back that basically mimics a single leg jump at full extension...and the only reason i do it is i feel it helps get my glutes,hams and calves firing properly...so yeah i do isos only for firing patterns

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