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you idiots use the word strength too much. kadour Ziani is not strong. He is fast. He develops force quickly in milliseconds, not under seconds under a squat rack with his glutes and quads. I wonder what his tendons look like, and his hip bones, but I feel like he jumps high due to the elastic properties of his tendons and bones in his hips.

As a result of his elastic and probably stiff tendons, he may be able to develop a lot of force, but to think they come from his muscles is just plain wrong. The tendons are the structures that allow the muscles to stretch and produce the force. I read some papers on thsi stuff while ago I forget now.

Also whoever said his flexibility may hinder his performance needs a reference. I understand that acutely stretching hinders power output. But improving fleixbility in the long run usually increases musclee strength.

Quote from: D4 on April 05, 2012, 08:21:33 am

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:08:19 am

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 05, 2012, 02:43:54 am

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 01:19:27 am

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Is it hard to do the test on yourself?  

No, it's easy.

  You know this from your extensive experience right?  Youve tested so many athletes and had your results checked against other professionals in the field and the standards.  

  Its a good idea for you to stop talking so much and read more, train for a few years.  Even complete a program or two.  Then come around and hash out all this knowledge you have.

He asked if it's easy to test on yourself. I've tested it on myself before and in fact I do it regularly. So yes, from extensive experience. No I don't need to check whether professionals find testing themselves easy.

Just because you tested it on yourself easily, doesn't mean you're getting accurate results.....

Lance asked if you compared your results with other professionals to see if you're getting accurate results, not if professionals find it easy...

Basic English man...

Seriously, this is like the 21978th time you failed to comprehend another persons argument...  To top it all off, you're someone with very little knowledge in training/diet/etc... and lately you're going HAM on this forum as if you're Adarq's replacement..  Just stop please.  For everyone and especially new people on this forum's sakes, who might not know any better than to listen to you.

Your question was, is it hard to do on yourself. My answer was simple.

Quote from: D4 on April 05, 2012, 05:22:54 am

I agree, a year ago I tested 5%BF on the machines and then a week later I had body caliper testing telling me I was 14% lol...

Man, your nutrition must've sucked that week

Quote from: D4 on April 04, 2012, 06:34:20 pm

Quote from: Raptor on April 04, 2012, 06:29:36 pm

There were actually two points that were trying to be made with this article:

1) Don't take back squatting as the only strength indicator especially if you want to improve on your one leg jump
AND
2) Don't ignore your calves for the exposed reasons.

It's like saying "winning money on the lottery ain't going to make you happy" or something. It doesn't matter that you also start spending a lot more than before you won the lottery and end up broke in 1 month, it was about making a point. You know, being metaphoric and shit.

And I've tried to lay it out with that example so that people that will say that increasing bodyweight while also increasing the squat (even getting a better ratio so a better squat relative strength) will understand that there's more to it than that when it comes to jumping off one leg. And there are reasons why the bodyweight must be kept down. It's nothing more than this what that article is all about. I think people that wanted to understand DID understood what I was trying to say there.

Sadly, I only realized this recently and just started adding RDL's to my lower body strength work which only consisted of full squats.

Quote from: LanceSTS on July 20, 2011, 09:02:11 am

Quote from: Ineedtodunk on July 20, 2011, 08:47:17 am

Hi Lance, so I'm a single leg jumper, and right now I'm am ~30" SVJ and ~38" RVJ.  I am parallel squatting 220lbs for 5 reps at 153lb BW.  Strength is obviously my biggest weakness right now, and I have been primarily focusing on getting my squat to 2xBW lately.  

But when I think more about it.  Since a SLRVJ is more p-chain dominant, wouldn't a conventional dead lift be the best primary strength builder for a single leg jumper like me?  Right now I dead lift around 235lbs for 5 reps, (I have been squatting much more consistently and I have short arms, making dead lifts a lil harder).  I would say I am good enough at using my lower body for dead lifts considering that my hamstrings are the main muscles getting murdered, and I lift the weight by snapping my hips forward.  However, what's weird lately is my glutes don't burn at all during dead lifts (just like my squats as you have read from my other post), and for some reason, although my back is pretty straight, my UPPER back tends to get a weird uncomfortable feeling after heavy dead lifts?

Well lately, I have been keeping squats as my primary strength builder, with the trap bar dead lift as supplementary exercise.  I am abroad right now, and my gym is tiny, and I would like to stick with what I am doing, which is 2 big lower body lifts.  If you were currently in my situation, which 2 of the following 3 would you do, and which would you concentrate on as your primary lift?  Squat / Dead Lift/ Trap Bar Dead Lift.

Thanks.

 Hey Ineedtodunk, in theory the deadlift would seem to be a better a choice for single leg jumpers than the squat but in reality it just doesnt work that way for many people.  IF your good at recruiting the glutes and hamstrings, then it can be a very good accessory, however what works best imo is to free squat on one day with ghr's done after, then box or pin squat from 1-2 " above parallel on the other day, with rdl's done after.  The hex bar deadlift is very similar to a squat the way that most people do them, however they can be done with high hips similar to a rdl or traditional deadlift as well.  For single leg jumping, you do need to pay special attention to the glutes and hams, but you also need to do single leg exercises as well.  If you know how to do single leg box squats they are a great option, lunges, bss, and step ups done correctly as well.

 So my advice is to push up your squat and box squat/pin squat, rdl and ghr, and single leg dominant exercise on both days.  If you do that followed by training the lower leg adequately, you have a solid set up for a single leg jumper in the weight room.  Make sure you are doing plenty of bounding, that alone can make a huge difference in progress.  You have to train that movement pattern over and over with progressive resistance/intensity to not only produce force, but to absorb more force as well.  

Your situations are not relevant nor possible because there is no way a guy can put on 50 pounds, stay at the same bodyfat percentage, and only squat 100 pounds more. Do you understand how much 50 pounds of mostly lean body mass is? I don't see the point of talking about a hypothetical situation that can never happen. Talk about reality.

What about this:

Same guy at 200 lbs and 400 lbs squat with 15% bodyfat (less lean body mass but more powerful neural signals)
Same guy at 200 lbs and 400 lbs squat with 10% bodyfat (more lean body mass but less powerful neural signals)