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That's pretty much what I was getting at. 50kg (110lbs) is massive for anybody, and it is relatively huge for a beginner especially. If you have a guy going from squatting 150lbs to 260lbs, I am 100% sure he will gain speed on 150lbs. It will also take him less effort to do that than a guy going from 350 to 460.

While I'm in agreement with Glenn Pendlay, and your post adarqui, I have a question for you: If you add 50kg to your squat, wouldn't you end up moving your old 1-RM faster?

This is a question that would definitely be more oriented towards beginners or advanced novices.

2a. I've got some mobility issues in my shoulders that's making it harder for me to snatch/OHS properly. For years I've had a shoulder click (anterior delt) when OHPing or doing dislocates. My coach gave me a couple of great stretches to do for that and told me to foam roll my scaps (posterior delts) and it actually helped within the workout to do that. Trigger points are crazy. No wonder acupuncture works for some people.

There are a ton of stories in OLing of guys who decided to really concentrate on squatting, cut everything else way back, put 25-50kg on their squat, only to have their snatch and clean and jerk remain the same or even go down. In fact, Donny did this at one point. He was squatting about 250kg back squat, 230kg front squat, deadlifting about 250kg also, and had a 200kg clean. A bit after he got to California, he decided to really concentrate on strength, squatting and deadlifting, and cut back his practice on the Olympic lifts. He gained a bit of weight even... and got his back squat to 300kg, his front squat to 260kg, and his deadlift to 300kg. And he was still cleaning 200kg.

There is no controversy about this in the OL world. There are individuals, largely from PL backgrounds, who claim that Olers don't place enough emphasis on strength work, and spend too much time on the competition lifts.

And on the subject of SS and Texas Method... Ben, where do you think the Texas Method came from???? Honestly now, Donny Shankle put 20kg on his squat on this program years before you or anyone else had ever heard of it... as did many other OLYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS... where do you think the program came from?

The experts pretty much agree that in the USA the lifters are simply not strong enough. Obviously what you are doing is not working... why not take the advice of someone reputable like Rippetoe or Simmons... what have you got to lose? Isn't doing the same old thing and expecting different results the definition of insanity?

This was confirmed with the presence of Ivan Abajiev here at California strength. Abajiev came here to coach and to raise the performance of American lifters via his proven coaching ability demonstrated with all the Olympic and World champions he had produced in Bulgaria. Things did not work out quite as planned, and Ivan, who had originally came here expecting to teach American coaches his proven system and have the athletes respond with large increases in performance, found multiple American coaches already employing a system so close to what he was trying to "teach" them that he wondered aloud to at least one individual why he was here.

  Glenn Pendlay, EXCELLENT progression into full snatch. 

http://www.californiastrength.com/olwete.html


  The first and second videos, of the high hang position into snatch, is very very beneficial to athletes, especially jumping athletes, without having to get into much technical difficulty at all.

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Quote from: Raptor on February 01, 2011, 03:15:04 am

Well I have that sitting height to standing height ratio of under 50, 49.7 (long legs), and I gain what, 2 inches off a run? Sure, I'm not jump efficient off two feet but still, you'd expect better. I also find it much easier to jump off a standing vert or off one step than the "average" basketball player at my height.

That's probably because the average basketball player your height doesn't even eat properly nervmind done any kind of lower body strength work. Most pro basketball players can't jump for shit standing, nevermind recreational and amateur.

Yeah it could be. So then any "natural" jumpers will jump a lot more off the run anyway than standing. If not, they will be bad jumpers regardless of the technique.