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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:50:54 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on July 15, 2017, 05:08:48 pm
Quote from: seifullaah73 on July 15, 2017, 04:33:32 pm
It's funny how all this world tour is pure entertainment just to lure more viewers to buy the fight even though the chance's remain the same for connor to win at 1%, which is the punchers chance.

I enjoyed watching it but my opinion is the same that mcgregor has no chance. he has 0 boxing iq and mma movement and boxing movement is different, he will find it hard to get around the ring that floyd will be the one chasing while mcgregor on the backfoot but will fail and get beat up badly.

yup.

we'll find out aug 26 tho. can't wait to not order it but find out the result! LMAO!

In the astronomically unlikely chance that Floyd loses or gets KO'd, i'll GLADLY rejoice with all of the people who want/think Conor to win.. In the likely chance that Conor gets TKO'd or the towel is thrown in late in the fight, i'll just laugh.

If Conor truly brings it, i'll get back to being a fan of his. His luster faded, for me, when he got owned by Nate in the first fight. Floyd keeps talking about Conor quitting with the tap, but he started quitting on himself before that, when he got caught with some good shots by Nate. So took him from "next level" to "above ordinary who is a master weight cutter" for me.

I did the same thing when Rousey got beat. Figured her for a one trick pony which obviously isn't true but she's got massive holes, mostly mental, and refused to acknowledge and fix them. Not sure Conor is made from the same cloth. Seems to be constantly seeking improvement and making his game better. I want him to win so badly but don't quite believe he will (or do I  :D). 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: I still have chance at 40 SVJ?
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:32:43 pm »
Quote from: fast does lie on July 14, 2017, 11:10:16 am
Quote from: Coges on July 13, 2017, 02:32:43 am
Quote from: fast does lie on July 12, 2017, 07:16:51 pm
Back in early 2012, I was a young buck and not the smartest. I would continually try to progress by maxing out when still not close to recovered, taking way too much preworkout supplements and other supplements. I used to shake from trying to add 5lb every session to a 5x5 routine, because my body just couldn't take it, esp when progressing from 225 5x5 to 275 5x5 in a matter of a month or so.

So I'm going to take a break from quad training, maybe 1 week.

Smart move. I believe my biggest failure the last 10 years is lack of smart programming (deloading) and trying to max out every time I approached PR territory. What does a PR actually mean if you're not lifting in a comp? Nothing.

I mean, I wouldn't say nothing though, cause it is a mental hurdle that you get over, and also for me obviously the higher PR I get, it sets me up for a higher potential SVJ, this is all theoretical though, as there are a lot of other factors to a SVJ.

Sorry I meant 1RM PRs not just PRs in general. I still think pushing everything else is necessary. Its a hard balance to keep though. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: July 14, 2017, 07:40:18 pm »
15/07/17
bw- 89.4
injuries- left wrist
soreness- general & high left hammy/glute tie in

Pre workout- protein shake, banana & triple espresso (prob under 200mg of caffeine though)

Warm up-  banded shoulder work, banded ankle dorsiflexion, banded hip flexor, pigeon stretch, bottom squat work

Snatch Pulls-
High Pull- bar x 10, 30 x 5, 40 x 5, 50 x 3 (great form here and was finally using the legs properly with a more relaxed upper body)
Panda Pull- 60 x 3, 70 x 3, 80 x 3-straps (almost as above- little more straining going on)
Snatch Grip DL (straps on all sets)- 90 x 5, 100 x 5, 110 x 3  :personal-record: (felt like I had 2 more reps in me so slightly disappointed but the third rep was also a bit grindy so probably wise to stop)

Barbell Row-
60 x 6, 80 x 6 (too heavy), 70 x 6, 6

Pull Ups-
bw x 5, 5, 4 (wanted more volume but didn't have it in me and was running out of time)

Farmers Walks-
48kg KBs- 25m x 10 EMOM

First actual full week of training in idk how long. Still haven't added any cardio in but overall feeling good at the moment. Do want to add HS, lever and planche work back in at some stage but will wait till the wrist is better before doing that.

Have some twingy feeling in left ham high up at the glute tie in. Aside from getting a ball in there to work around does anyone have any suggestions on what else could help it? I have been wanting to include KB swings, jefferson curls, etc but don't want to stress it more than I already am.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: July 13, 2017, 10:30:22 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 09:47:09 pm
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On a  side note, I do love Joe Rogan's take on things that MMA should be bare knuckle. Makes sense to me.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA</a>

dno. from a repetitive brain trauma/grappling/submission/purity perspective, it makes sense. From a face bone structure & hand injury perspective, it doesn't. Longevity of fighters in the sport would go way down if you allowed bare fisted punches, that's why it seems like they'd have to go back to open palm. The knuckles are just way too delicate. With bare knuckle punches, fractures to the face & knuckles would go way up.. Broken orbitals on jabs, lmao. Elbows/shins are lethal, but the volume of punches you can get in, in such a short time frame, is a big problem: imagine bare fisted GNP finishes.. sounds risky.

I remember head stomps in Pride.. glad that's not allowed in the US.

also the shit he said at 2:08 is what wrecked my right hand (index knuckle) permanently. learned that the hard way.

Bas Rutten also explains it really well and he used to fight vale tudo bare hand no wraps. I don't recall too many facial fractures from those days. There was nowhere near the level of gnp or stand and trade though. Probably a moot point anyway as it'll never happen.

Damn. Punching dudes in the forehead. Not ideal. I've had that on the shins plenty of times with peoples elbows. Super painful.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: July 13, 2017, 10:24:43 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 09:47:09 pm
Quote from: Coges on July 13, 2017, 07:24:38 pm
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 05:27:57 pm
I imagine what most people mean is "Conor won't have the same level of power". Boxing gloves are much heavier. I think they are using 10 oz gloves in the bout? 4 oz vs 10 oz is a huge difference. I've sparred with 12, 14, and 16 oz gloves. I'd never spar with 4 oz gloves. Hard sparring with 4 oz gloves instantly becomes a "real fight", every shot can cause serious damage (especially to orbitals etc). 10 oz gloves aren't that far off from sparring glove weight, and 10 oz is used in amateurs.

Actually, maybe it's like 10 oz vs 4 oz running shoes? :D

Most everyone on this forum knows how good it feels to put on some very light weight shoes and do some sprints, runs, etc.. Then you put on heavier shoes and you instantly feel more sluggish. Yet, these elite Kenyan marathoners are running in 8-12 oz shoes.. How the hell do they feel so good in such heavy shoes? Experience, IMHO. These guys, who look so skinny/weak to most people, are running consistent sub-5 min/mi for 26.2 miles in 8-12 oz shoes, 8 being "minimalist" to them. So not only do they have the lung capacity, mitochondria in their capillaries; they also have this incredible mastery of a heavy implement on their foot. Studies show you can output more force in heavier shoes up to a certain point, but tell that to anyone coming from flats/waffles.

To me, that's similar to the idea of going from 4 oz to 8-10 oz gloves in a professional bout. When you "feel fast" with 4 oz, have power with 4 oz, have timing with 4 oz, then you put on a pair of 8's or 10's & get in there with someone who has mastered 8's/10's (and even 16'z in sparring), the power/speed/confidence you had with 4 oz gloves is going to most likely suffer. Add that to the accumulated fatigue of throwing/defending/missing with heavier gloves, and you have a new set of problems.

If this were a "fight" (not boxing) with 4 oz gloves, i'd give Conor the edge, especially considering Floyd would probably break his hands within the first round. Floyd would not do well in the bare knuckle game, he's not physically built for it & his style is perfected/optimized for boxing.

pC!

But what size gloves do you think MMA guys spar with usually? Not 4oz that's for sure. That's just a recipe for disaster. Most guys will use 14 or 16's as far as I'm aware.

Right but they are training all kinds of skills: grappling, wrestling, kicks, muay thai, and boxing = alot less punches & alot less work with boxing gloves.

MMA dudes do lots of light contact sparring with MMA gloves, because they also have to work takedowns/grappling/wrestling, so you don't see them putting in the kind of work boxers do with heavier gloves, not even close to the same amount of total work from what i've seen in person (at ATT).

ie, every time a boxer goes into a session, they are pretty much lacing them up for the hour.

Understand your point there. It's just frustrating that every time I read/hear something on this fight it's as if Conor has never put on a boxing glove before. Almost like he's a rugby player turned boxer or something.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: July 13, 2017, 07:24:38 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 05:27:57 pm
I imagine what most people mean is "Conor won't have the same level of power". Boxing gloves are much heavier. I think they are using 10 oz gloves in the bout? 4 oz vs 10 oz is a huge difference. I've sparred with 12, 14, and 16 oz gloves. I'd never spar with 4 oz gloves. Hard sparring with 4 oz gloves instantly becomes a "real fight", every shot can cause serious damage (especially to orbitals etc). 10 oz gloves aren't that far off from sparring glove weight, and 10 oz is used in amateurs.

Actually, maybe it's like 10 oz vs 4 oz running shoes? :D

Most everyone on this forum knows how good it feels to put on some very light weight shoes and do some sprints, runs, etc.. Then you put on heavier shoes and you instantly feel more sluggish. Yet, these elite Kenyan marathoners are running in 8-12 oz shoes.. How the hell do they feel so good in such heavy shoes? Experience, IMHO. These guys, who look so skinny/weak to most people, are running consistent sub-5 min/mi for 26.2 miles in 8-12 oz shoes, 8 being "minimalist" to them. So not only do they have the lung capacity, mitochondria in their capillaries; they also have this incredible mastery of a heavy implement on their foot. Studies show you can output more force in heavier shoes up to a certain point, but tell that to anyone coming from flats/waffles.

To me, that's similar to the idea of going from 4 oz to 8-10 oz gloves in a professional bout. When you "feel fast" with 4 oz, have power with 4 oz, have timing with 4 oz, then you put on a pair of 8's or 10's & get in there with someone who has mastered 8's/10's (and even 16'z in sparring), the power/speed/confidence you had with 4 oz gloves is going to most likely suffer. Add that to the accumulated fatigue of throwing/defending/missing with heavier gloves, and you have a new set of problems.

If this were a "fight" (not boxing) with 4 oz gloves, i'd give Conor the edge, especially considering Floyd would probably break his hands within the first round. Floyd would not do well in the bare knuckle game, he's not physically built for it & his style is perfected/optimized for boxing.

pC!

But what size gloves do you think MMA guys spar with usually? Not 4oz that's for sure. That's just a recipe for disaster. Most guys will use 14 or 16's as far as I'm aware.

On a  side note, I do love Joe Rogan's take on things that MMA should be bare knuckle. Makes sense to me.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CYIhMW9KA</a>

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: July 13, 2017, 05:17:24 pm »
13/7/17
Hapkido class. Finally getting back into the swing and it's all starting to come back. Did about 15m of jumping kicks and the legs were fried. Was getting great height on my jumping back kick though. Have to get some footage to see how high I'm actually getting though.

14/7/17
bw- ?
Injuries- right wrist still not 100%, high left ham/glute tie in isn't great
Soreness- all over from last night. Mainly hams, quads and upper back.

Pre-workout- protein shake, banana, double espresso

Warm Up- lacrosse ball, hip mobilisations, HF stretches

Hang Clean- bar x 10, 40 x 5, 60 x 2, 2

Front Squat- 40 x 5, 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 5

OHP- bar x 10, 30 x 5, 42.5 x 5, 5, 5

Fairly quick session. Took me a while to warm up even though I was wearing four layers the entire time. Will have to check back through my log but I believe 100 may only be 5kg of my lifetime PR which is pretty cool. Want to push it to 110 over the next few weeks unbelted and then go for 130 belted.

Also, idiot me realised why my weight hasn't been moving down. Have been snacking on nuts the last couple of weeks. Cashews are my nut of choice and I knew they're calorie dense but didn't realise it was so dense. I was eating 150g at a time which is over 800. Doing that three to four times a week is my desired fat loss right there. So unfortunately no more nuts for me...at least not as many anyway. 

Edit- lifetime front squat PR is 105 x 5 (August 2014) and 125 x 1 (sometime in 2015). Also, I'm finding it pretty cool there's 20kg difference between DL and back squat and another 20 difference between back and front squats. A nice ratio to keep hopefully. Will be snatch grip deadlifting tomorrow and hoping for 5 at 100 so that'll be a good difference to keep as well between those and conventional DLs. 

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: July 13, 2017, 08:41:18 am »
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 05:26:52 am
Quote from: Coges on July 13, 2017, 02:30:44 am
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 12:08:07 am
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.

a double knockout would be optimal.


The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.

noOOOOOoOoOOOooOoooOOooOOooooOOOoo. :f

https://twitter.com/adarqui/status/837205158438240256

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"Mouth don't throw punches. Punches throw punches."

-- Keith "One Time" Thurman



Thing is.. no matter how witty Conor is, or how good his talk game is, Floyd will always think he's winning that battle as well. Floyd is in his own world where he's the king, in his mind. There's literally nothing Conor can say, that'll get under his skin, even if he attacks his middle school reading level, Floyd responds back with: "read this, 76,000,000". Maybe attacking him on his domestic violence charges and what that says about him as a father, could get under Floyd's skin. I'll give him that angle.. But I doubt he'd use it. Other than that, Floyd deep down thinks he's winning everything - talk, money, records, prestige, numbers, women, the life, everything.

Conor got under Aldo's skin & caused Aldo to rush in and trade.. but Aldo isn't anywhere near Floyd's level when it comes to being able to play that game. Conor tried to get under Nate's skin.. How'd that work out? lmao.

Anyway, just remembering how much shit Conor talked to Nate Diaz, both fights.




was searching for Nate Diaz talking shit to Conor in the ring.. found this:

LMFAO AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO.. Conor dominates the whole video, until that clip at the end.. absolutely destroyed.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSOD7pEesE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSOD7pEesE</a>

oh man.. i died. "playing touch butt with that dork in the park. the guy with the pony tail. My team will beat your whole teams ass. My JV team will beat your whole team's ass."

conor = wrecked.

He knows that shit is true as fuck.. Nate's camp is full of soldiers. Absolute psychos who live this shit.


earlier in the vid: Conor: the only difference I made was I dug the grave a little wider and longer for Nate's skinny fat body.

brutal.

"He makes good times with the right hand and animal balloons with the left hand"  :P :P :P Pure gold!

Man but Nate's not normal. He just wants enough money to smoke weed and do his triathlons in peace. And you're right. His camp are straight up savages. 

CM has the game to back up his mouth though. He loses at 170, comes back and wins at 170 even though 155 was on offer with Nate. I still see it being more even than people thing. It's hilarious to listed to the "boxing" crowd say "oh when he puts on these gloves he won't have any power" or "boxers know how to take punishment". They're getting a little precious with it IMO.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: I still have chance at 40 SVJ?
« on: July 13, 2017, 02:32:43 am »
Quote from: fast does lie on July 12, 2017, 07:16:51 pm
Back in early 2012, I was a young buck and not the smartest. I would continually try to progress by maxing out when still not close to recovered, taking way too much preworkout supplements and other supplements. I used to shake from trying to add 5lb every session to a 5x5 routine, because my body just couldn't take it, esp when progressing from 225 5x5 to 275 5x5 in a matter of a month or so.

So I'm going to take a break from quad training, maybe 1 week.

Smart move. I believe my biggest failure the last 10 years is lack of smart programming (deloading) and trying to max out every time I approached PR territory. What does a PR actually mean if you're not lifting in a comp? Nothing.

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Boxing / Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor
« on: July 13, 2017, 02:30:44 am »
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2017, 12:08:07 am
obviously I think Conor has a 0% chance and will get owned, but i don't care what happens in this fight. i just hope one of them gets ko'd within the first few rounds. If Floyd lost by KO, i'd be ecstatic - that's what you get for this circus & not fighting GGG. If Conor loses by KO, it'll be expected & i'll be happy.

a double knockout would be optimal.

The more this goes on the more chance I actually think Conor has. The man can talk like no other and I don't care who you are it gets under your skin eventually.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: July 12, 2017, 07:01:47 pm »
Filled in for my brother in laws social mixed netball team last night. Played shooter then keeper so not a whole lot of running but had a great time when the other team kept trying to lob the ball over me. Plenty of intercepts. Nice to get a run in too as it's been a while.

Bodyweight has stabilised around the 89 mark. Was 89.4 this morning and have been between there and 89 pretty much the last week or two. Really want to shed some more fat but don't really want to eat less right now so I'll be adding some more activity to try and get it down. Will also get some more sleep which I know will help out too. Ideally I want to be 88 flat in 2 weeks time.

Edit- Am in my 3rd week of the whole30 thing. No alcohol, added sugar, grains or dairy. I have added in whey (dairy), some greek yoghurt and oats but that's been it. It's been harder to prepare meals than before but the great thing is the recovery. Even though I'm still sore after training it's marginal. Even after playing netball last night. Normally the knees would be screaming at me and now they're just mildly upset. Don't know if I will continue this in full after the 30 days but will definitely keep the alcohol and sugar out. Don't see a reason to add bread or pasta back in but will likely add rice back.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: July 12, 2017, 02:22:06 am »
12/07/17- 9.30am
bw- 89.4
Injuries- wrist still a little buggy
Soreness- general but not bad

Pre workout- Nitraflex & BCAAs
Post workout- whey & banana

Quick warm up- HFs and shoulders

Wide Grip RDL- bar x 10, 60 x 5, 5
DL- 80 x 5, 100 x 5, 120 x 3, 140 x 5

Chin Up/Pull Up (alternating grip)- bw x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5

BB Curls- 25 x 10, 10

Farmers Walks- 48kg KBs- 50m x 2, 25m x 4 (30s rest periods)

Went and got some more pre workout samples. Don't think I intend to use them regularly but it might be ok to have a few tucked away for special occasions (more for the caffeine and placebo effect than anything else). Used nitraflex this morning. Didn't have a great effect. Not quite the same kick as the one I used last week (Total War). Have three other samples that I will use over the next couple of weeks to test them out too.

Deads felt super solid and I'm only 15kg off my 5RM pb so I'm feeling pretty good about them so far.

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MOVIES & ENTERTAINMENT & SHeeT! / Re: Why don't we have a misc movie thread?
« on: July 10, 2017, 07:52:11 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on July 10, 2017, 02:49:05 am
Quote from: Coges on July 10, 2017, 02:41:02 am
Alright will watch. Now it goes on my list including but not limited to:

- Dark Knight Rises
- American Sniper
- The Hateful Eight
- Bone Tomahawk
- Sicaro
- actually pretty much any movie that has a dramatic streak to it.

^^ Sicario is really good.



Just watched Dark Knight Rises trailer to refresh my memory, oh the one with Bane.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1345836/videoplayer/vi2376312089?ref_=tt_ov_vi

dope trailer. My favorite batman movie is "The Dark Knight" with Heath Ledger (RIP).

Bale was an epic batman. He brought it into a "darker" more intense world, which I prefer in comic book/superhero movies.

Agreed on the darker superhero movies. It's how I remember the comics from my youth too.

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MOVIES & ENTERTAINMENT & SHeeT! / Re: Why don't we have a misc movie thread?
« on: July 10, 2017, 02:41:02 am »
Alright will watch. Now it goes on my list including but not limited to:

- Dark Knight Rises
- American Sniper
- The Hateful Eight
- Bone Tomahawk
- Sicaro
- actually pretty much any movie that has a dramatic streak to it. 

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MOVIES & ENTERTAINMENT & SHeeT! / Re: Why don't we have a misc movie thread?
« on: July 10, 2017, 01:57:43 am »
Quote from: fast does lie on July 10, 2017, 01:07:33 am
the movie Inception....

Does anyone here actually understand the exact plot and logic of the movie?

I personally still don't get some parts of it.... such as wtf happened that cause Mal to think the real world was not real (how he locked the totem in a safe or something).... and how the son of that tycoon helped them break into his own subconscious....

Have not seen it. Is it worth my time to invest in it?

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