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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: May 10, 2016, 12:27:06 am »You know, I was thinking about the "ball wax thing"... why should ball grip be a limitation for dunking? If you want to see how high you can get, you shouldn't be put down because you used ball wax. That shouldn't be an issue. If you jump 8 inches lower because you feel the ball is slippery, how is that "cool" in any way, why should you struggle because of that?
So I don't have a problem with guys using ball wax when dunking. I've used it in the past but it made dunking "artificially". Hard to explain, but I would get "lazy" when using ball wax. Without the ball wax, I would have a "rhythm" about my run-up that I didn't have when I used ball wax, I moved differently. Interesting.
ya i don't mind it either.. unless people 'lie about it', that's annoying.
i still think lobs are more fun anyway, so palming a ball/using wax are futile at that point.
lobs are similar to wax.. many people don't respect lobs. "but can you do that off of a dribble???" etc etc. someone will always whine about something though.. "but can you do that in a game?!?" ... "but can you shoot a jump shot?!?"
must suck to think like that.
First of all... What is ball wax? Is it stickum? Or something better? I don't think stickum is that helpful...
i dno tbh, I just hear people talk about using it.. and people who use it, can palm balls easy. Raptor would know best.
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Personally I think it all depends on why you like dunking. For me the best dunks follow the Michael Jordan rule for dunk contests: must dribble, no lobs, no traveling.
I can appreciate other dunks though, I just appreciate them in context. I don't love self love where the athletes goal is dunking from as high as possible because it's just a jumping contest at that point... I like jumping high but really dunking can be so much more multi-dimensional as a sport than just jumping ability. Jordan Kilganon certainly can't jump as high as Daniel Kabeya but he is a much better dunker. I can get my hair to the rim but I can't do a BTL dunk on an 8 foot hoop. I appreciate the skills Dunkers have as much as their ability to jump.
That said my list of dunk impressiveness goes "no travel dunks" >>>> "partner lob" > "self lob" >> traveling dunks >>>>>>> partner hold.
I prefer partner lob slightly more than self lob because it is a more realistic part of the game but I think the self lob is a really valuable tool that I wish I had and allows you to really get good dunk practice. Any lob is better than the Dunkers where people run the length of the court w out dribbling... Michael Jordan's ft line dunks were so cool cause he didn't travel.
https://youtu.be/sUz3ZYfoNxo
every time I see MJ, it reminds me to go watch some James White videos:
ya no traveling on that kind of dunk/distance is ridiculous.
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But the worst dunk of all time is this new partner hold bs. Where the guy holds the ball on his head, his partner boosts up on the ball to climb over his back and then dunks it. I mean.... Cmon! This isn't a dunk! This is literally climbing a wall and dunking!
i keep seeing people mention that but I haven't seen that many extreme cases of it. ie, when Myree does it, I don't really see a boost. But maybe these h.s. kids are doing that in dunk contests? Boosting up on the ball while it's atop someone's head sounds weird/risky/painful for the person holding the ball. odd
i imagine they get more boost doing the pushoff (from the shoulders) dunks though.
as far as dunk contests go, I personally prefer lobs. I like seeing more vert. I also like seeing how the lob itself can change everything, ie, a bad toss, low toss, high toss, etc.
a lob is kind of like the 'rabbit' that dogs chase in dog racing.. can bring more out of you. more speed/power/vert etc.

imho, you don't see these kinds of dunks off of a dribble.. unless it's from VC maybe.
crazyness.. I was searching for his high lob btl, where he catches it basically above the rim but somehow still BTL's it.. can't find it. that is such a mind blowing dunk. I think he did it in that jordan brand contest.. no luck.
pc!

I KNEW IT, I knew this was going to happen, but khan fought a good fight.
