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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Squatting weight and vertical jumping
« on: February 03, 2011, 01:58:51 pm »
 If youre still improving WEEKLY I would definitely not change what youre doing right now, milk those initial strength gains for all theyre worth.  Once you hit a wall later down the road then you can tweak what youre doing but for now I would definitely stick with something that has been working well for you and not change it just to do something different. 

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News, Announcements, & Suggestions / Re: new banners
« on: February 02, 2011, 11:14:44 pm »
  That shark banner is sick!@! :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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 Glad you guys like the videos, Pendlay has a great way of breaking things down in the lifts and structuring progressions that are effective and simple.

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NIce! lol @ "some idiot" haha  :uhhhfacepalm:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: February 02, 2011, 03:41:29 am »
WHOA SHIT!@! Damn glad youre ok bro, damn. 

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 Great squat by Donny Shankle, one of his athletes.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ki721pSso" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ki721pSso</a>


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  Glenn Pendlay, EXCELLENT progression into full snatch. 

http://www.californiastrength.com/olwete.html


  The first and second videos, of the high hang position into snatch, is very very beneficial to athletes, especially jumping athletes, without having to get into much technical difficulty at all.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: January 28, 2011, 08:48:13 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrR5ihZDrkQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrR5ihZDrkQ</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrR5ihZDrkQ

 :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm:

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: placement of bar on squats
« on: January 27, 2011, 04:14:45 am »
Now i dont even know what grip should I use.

Use one that feels comfortable to you, its easy to figure out once youve tried it both ways.

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Does your traps come out mroe if you tilt your elbows up?

If youre using the low bar position it raises the back of the shoulders to create a better shelf, if youre using a high bar position its not necessary but some find it more secure.

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And when those lifters use a full grip, their wrists arent straight. What if we did like rippetoe's way, only we use a full grip and not thumbless grip? Is that possible?

Are peoples wrists straight when they front squat? The idea that the wrist HAS to be straight is silly, its a personal preference at best.  And yes, its possible to use a full grip and keep the wrist straight, the hand will be further on top of the bar in this position.



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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: placement of bar on squats
« on: January 26, 2011, 09:48:52 pm »
From Starting Strength:

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The thumb should be placed on top of the bar, so that the wrist can be held in a straight line with the forearm.


Are you asking a question or what? I realize thats his reasoning for the thumb on top grip and said that already in the post above. if you think that starting strength is the end all "rule book" for how to perform the basic lifts youre badly misinformed.

Here is one example of an elite squatter using a full grip, low bar position.....

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orO4tFEkr6g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orO4tFEkr6g</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orO4tFEkr6g

Here is several others...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgjaFBVAuQ4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgjaFBVAuQ4</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgjaFBVAuQ4

I could do this all day but the point is still the same, do what feels most comfortable to you.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: placement of bar on squats
« on: January 26, 2011, 02:41:47 pm »
slightly off topic, whats the deal with thumbs?

rippetoe recommends a thumbless grip, i did this for maybe a year...recently switched to a grip using my thumb and i believe my squat form improved...but rippetoe says this will cause problems at heavier weights? i always bend my wrists backwards using a thumbless grip...long arms at fault?

 Rippetoe recomends that grip for his style of squat, elbows tilted up and hands pressing down into the bar, and wrists straight.  There are many world record holders in the squat who squat with a full grip (thumbs around bar), its basically whatever feels the most comfortable to you personally.  The main thing to watch out for is holding the weight of the bar in your hands, that can cause shoulder issues down the line, just make sure whatever grip you use allows you to let the bar sink into the traps/rear delts, and takes the brunt of the load out of the hands.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: valsalva maneuver
« on: January 20, 2011, 12:37:56 am »
o right my bad.

bu twhy i pant after set of lunges, is because i'm already using lots of energy by just gripping the dumbbell and making sure my form is proper. i e ven use wrist straps, but as i progressed in the weight, it gets harder.

of course my grip strength is limited and weak, but i cant just sit around waiting until my foprearms grow bigger then only progress in weights. i mean, wouldnt that spoil the point of , doing lunges which is suppose to train your legs?

i was thinking, since i use 47.5lbs dbells for 12 reps of lunges, if i would to hvea low volume day for lunges, but 47.5lbs dbbells is my grip strength limit with wrist straps( i could do 50 but i'm sure i can lift much more than 100lbs for 5-8 reps), so should i use baqrbell for those?

andrew said to use db, but i'm not sure when can i move on to barbell.

thx

Being that you have another thread on how the bar hurts you to squat with it on your traps, I would stick with dumbells for a while, you shouldnt have a problem with grip while using straps.  Have someone at your gym who has been lifting for a while or a trainer show you how to wrap them correctly, youre probably not doing it right if youre feeling your grip give out with straps on 50 lb dumbells.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: placement of bar on squats
« on: January 20, 2011, 12:31:45 am »
  Im not going to read those articles man, but bar placement is really easy, for the high bar squat find a place between the middle and lower part of the traps and it will be much more comfortable.  For the low bar squat the bar goes across the rear delts, mark rippetoe has several youtube videos on how to attain this position.  Play around with your grip until you find a comfortable one, I would imagine at your size going closer would fit you better and allow you to stay tighter with more cushion to put the bar on.  If its still bothers you too badly then wrap a towel around the bar or use a small bar pad, just dont get a pad that elevates the bar too high, it will shift the leverage points and make the squat harder, creating a longer lever at the torso.

Also, regarding the bar feeling like its going to fall, just tilt the elbows up backwards a little, that will take care of it.  If none of this helps try coating the bar with vagisil, that works for some people who can get used to the feeling of having a 45 lb bar on their back.

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I'm approaching my deload and then high frequency MSEM squatting phase soon (~2 weeks 'til then).

I plan on doing MSEM on MON, TUE, THU and FRI, with power work like snatches and 1-2 jump squats interspersed. So MSEM squat + snatch on MON and THU + MSEM squat + 1-2 jump squat on TUE and FRI. I also want to cut down fat so after I do my strength work I'll do stuff on a stationary bike (no treadmill, afraid of that machine) and when it's OK outside - run.

Any ideas of how to implement it? Any other ideas?

Should I do a few snatches and jump squats before the MSEM squats? After them? That is - use snatches and jump squats as MSEM potentiation or use MSEM as snatch and jump squat potentiation? Or do a 4 rep MSEM set, then do the dynamic stuff, then do another 4 rep MSEM set? (wave loading)

I'm still not sure what weight I'll use, squatted 140 and probably my max is ~145 or so, I think I should use 130 kg for starters.

can you split up training into two sessions? I doubt it so i'll comment like you said no.. but if you can, then jumps/interval cardio would be session 1, snatch/explosive lift + MSEM would be session two.

i think you could definitely drop weight AND maintain or even improve strength using some cardio, but, i'd use interval cardio methods..

for example:


Monday: (recovered from sat/sun): possible PR jump attempts, snatch or jump squat, MSEM (heavy 2 x 4), bw upper and/or core
Tuesday: (some fatigue from monday): interval cardio (jump rope intervals, bike sprint intervals, or light sprint intervals), moderate volume squat (3 x Almost Failure (submax effort method), strict form, 70-75%), bw upper and/or core

Thursday: Same as monday
Friday: same as tuesday except, 3-5 x Almost failure, strict form, 75-80% on squat.. can get in more volume

Rest days or separate sessions: walk + light interval sprints for cardio.. glute/calf work (such as glute bridges/calf raises at night, etc).. optional Bw upper (pushups/dips/pullups).. that bw stuff is to help maintain mass and active those muscle groups.. bottom line, you need tension to maintain mass when in a routine like this, but the tension doesn't have to come from very heavy weights.. i'm talking about maintaining lean mass while trying to lean out (losefat).

and obviously, you'd want to up the protein and reduce the carbs in terms of diet, no junk either.

that's my opinion on this idea.. one problem i've made is not hitting volume while doing my frequency blocks.. though i may maintain strength pretty good, i would actually lose some lean mass, so then when i come out of the block, i end up getting weaker fast..

peace man

x2, thats exactly what I would do if you have the option of spliting it, that would be best, if not then make the most of it. I would also build up the volume on the extra work, start low and build week to week, you can adapt quickly on high frequency training but you need to work your way into it.

 Btw, youve been hitting pretty consistent pr's in your journal very frequently, why would you change your approach while its still working? I would wait until you plateau, then implement something like this, dont just do it because you got the urge to.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: valsalva maneuver
« on: January 20, 2011, 12:19:32 am »
lol of course i dont. But sometimes usign this method makes me feel a little dizzy. Maybe i dont have to use this method on lifts more than 10reps?



The key to using it effectively without the dizziness or other side effects is to control the amount of air you take in before holding the breath.  Most people take too large of a breath when they first begin doing this, its not neccessary, take about 3 quarters to half as much air in, push out into the belly, and you will be fine.  You can use this for as many reps as you need, just exhale at the top of the movement and get another breath.  And yes, one of the major problems with people doing lunges is they dont breathe correctly, and get sloppy from being in a hurry, you need to treat them like a squat.  Inhale at the top, hold the breath through the sticking point, exhale at the top or after the sticking point, repeat.

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