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Gym:

Track warmup

Depth jumps@24'': 2x6

Power clean: Warmup, 1x60kgs, 2x80kgs, 2x85kgs, 90kgs fail x 2, 1x85kgs

Jump squats: 1x6@16kgs, 1x6@32kgs, 1x5@48kgs, 1x6@16kgs

DB swing: 1x8@16kgs, 3x6@27.5kgs, 1x8@16kgs

RDL: 1x6@60kgs, 1x6@100kgs, 1x4@140kgs  :personal-record: , 1x5@100kgs

Chin-ups, core etc., foam roll

Failed at 90kgs power clean today. Just didn't have the timing down right. Annoyed because 85kgs felt fairly easy. Might need to work on my technique a bit more before I can increase the weight.

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Yeh I bet you're heaps faster now especially if you are the same bodyweight now as you were back than.

Yeah, it's just a matter of getting back my speed endurance. I've lost a lot of it just through lack of training for it. I doubt I could break 12 seconds atm, but I know I'm faster up to 50m than I was before. Looking forward to it.

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Basketball / Re: this dude can fly and hes not even black
« on: August 21, 2012, 08:52:47 pm »
1) There's a dunks thread for this stuff

2) Who cares if he's black or white? Plenty of sick jumpers are white. It shouldn't be that amazing really.

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Nice squatting and MEBM set.
Are you going to run track this summer?

Thanks mate. I think I will run track this summer, I'm interested to see what I can do now I have a whole lot more strength than when I was 17-18. Back then I was basically jumping a little less than I am now (around 35'') with just a lot of track running and horizontal jumps, and playing basketball casually. I doubt I could have done much more than 1x BW squat for a few reps back then.

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Track:

Warmup

3x20 pogos

3x10 tuck jumps

2x8 DL bounds for height w/PJ

3x7-8 DL bounds for height w/o PJ

3x30m LRLRLR bounds

3x50m

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Gym:

ATG squat: Warmup, 1x3@120kgs, 1x3@140kgs, 2x3@150kgs , 1x20@100kgs (MEBM)

Unilat calf raise: 1x12-15/leg@100kgs, 2x10/leg@120kgs

BSS: 2x6/leg@25kgs

GHR: 1x10@12kgs, 1x10@16kgs, 1x8@28kgs, 1x10@12kgs

Same weight as last time for the ATG squats but they felt a bit easier and faster. I thought about not doing the MEBM set because of the fatigue but it felt good to do it. Bloody hard but I'm steadily improving on the weight I can do for 20 reps which is progress. You really fell like a badass once you've done it too  :ninja:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: August 19, 2012, 11:47:31 pm »

120815 Upperbody Circuit Fat
Did it today, 35 min... Let lose some fat please

120817 Boing Phs 5 W2 D2
Completed today Depth jump...
However, the performance is bad.. I am not able to jump as high as i should...
Just having a bad day... I wonder if today effort is all wasted..  None of my depth jump (low or hi box) is teaching my previous max height.

120819 Vert Test at my old home
Got back to my old home with that 9'11ish Rim.... and attempt to duck the Kid size ball.... and failed.
Much like my previous, running approach is a mess.  Slow run up with 2 the final two hop step into a jump caught me as high as before... 

As high as before is not good enough to dunk even the small ball, I need to get higher...

My baby and my wife is at the court... along with some kid, watching me attempt to dunk that small ball 5 or 6 times.. some are fairly close but all are rejected from the rim...

The boing vert system have some effect on my body, I can now jump higher in my 2 step jump (relatively to pre Boin)... but it did not help out on the running jump.

According to the Boin book, the last 2 weeks  (phs 6 ), which consist of 4day x 2 weeks routine will help on transforming all the new gained strength and whatever into running jump...

I can't wait to get this Boing over with, and get back to the squat rack.

If according to plan, 2nd week of Sept I will be back with squatting, and lot or running approach jump practice!
Nov 10! I want to catch the deadline.

I'm really flogging a dead horse here, but Scooby, no one is holding a gun to your head and making you finish BoingVert. You're not gonna get a special adarq.org award for stubbornly completing the most number of scam programs (although if there was such an award it would be named after you). If you acknowledge that you need to be squatting, working your calves, and practising approach jumps, then just start doing it right now.

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^As a typical (B) athlete example i think you nailed it with this paragraph.
But anyways i was just playing devil's advocate here. As you said there are so many other parameters. For example, LBSS is not short, he has way too short arms. I am less than 1'' taller than him and my standing reach is 5'' higher. If he had just normal hands he would be dunking now. Or if i had just normal hands, just 2'' shorter than now, i would have never dunked 10'.
Take home point is forget your height, your reach, your limbs length, just train smart and work your ass off to improve whatever you can towards your goals. Which you are already doing exceptionally well btw!  :highfive:


Yep wise words indeed. Thanks man!

Jumps:

6 SVJs --> mostly 32, one pretty good maybe 33''

6 DSVJs --> mostly 34''

3 DLRVJs --> around 34'' as well (not putting too much speed into it as there were a bunch of people on the court again  :pissed:)

4 SLRVJs --> same as DLRVJs, focusing on leaning back and really squeezing the glutes and hamstrings as I lever off the ground. I'm pretty sure my left knee gets sore after about 6-7 SLs because I don't use my P-chain enough and I load up my knee with too much quad. I don't want it to develop into any sort of tendinitis so I won't go full effort on SLRVJs this week, just focus on the above (+ icing 2x a day and foam rolling and stretching a ton).

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my youngest brother is 6'3 with an 8'2 reach. all else being equal, if i was that tall i could dunk with two hands and hit the middle of my forearm on the rim.

fuck tall people.

OR, your taller younger brother that may be weak and skinny would be able to dunk awesomely if he had your superior squating leverages to build strength.
:-*


I always used to think, "Damn I wish I was maybe 1-2'' taller, that'd be 1-2'' less to gain". I'd also presumably have longer arms as well so maybe 1-2'' extra there as well. But after thinking about it, if I had longer leverages I might not have gained as many inches as I have through squatting, so I might be exactly where I am now anyway.

Hypothetical situation (because I know how much everyone here loves Athlete A vs Athlete B comparisons :) ). Would you rather be:

A) My reach (~7'6'', approximately 38-40'' to dunk clean depending on hand size), with shorter limbs, and (ostensibly) greater potential to make strength gains, or:

B) 8' standing reach, longer limbs, bigger hands, but might have a harder time gaining strength in the vert lifts.

I guess if your goal is to dunk a basketball into a regulation hoop, then taller is probably better. But if gaining vertical is your goal (with no desire to perform some physical feat that is confined by a certain parameter i.e. dunking at 10'), then maybe shorter limbs is more ideal.

I realise there are a million other factors to consider for strength gains (diet, genetics etc). As an Athlete A type, I think it's  psychologically more challenging when you begin, and the journey is probably longer, but I think it'd be more rewarding in the end if you make it. Most of my team laughed at me when I said I was trying to dunk, so there's always that motivation as well, to do something people think you can't do.

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Jumps:

5 SVJs

8 DSVJs

2 DLRVJs

2 SLRVJs

I knew this would happen but the courts that are open at Friday lunch are packed now. When I first started coming there was maybe 1-2 other people across two courts, now there's 4v4, 5v5 games at every ring. So it's much harder now to get running jumps in.

It was funny as well, there were some fairly tall guys (6'2''+) trying to dunk after their games but they kept missing and just slamming the ball off the back of the rim. They strutted around though like they were freaking TFB or something though (probably because you don't see many people dunking here).

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Gym:

Depth jumps@22'': 3x6

KB/DB swings: 2x8@12kgs, 2x8@20kgs

Jump squats: 2x8@16kgs, 2x8@32kgs

Power clean: 5@40kgs, 5@60kgs, 3@80kgs (felt really easy compared to first time at this weight)

RDLs: 1x8@80kgs, 2x6@120kgs, 1x8@90kgs

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Track

Warmup

3x20 pogos

3x10 tuck jumps

4x7-8 DL bounds for height

3x30m LRLRLR SL bounds (tried double armswing on the last two - it's hard  :huh: )

80m, 100m, 150m, 100m, 60m (all 95%)

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high bar?

I squat high bar. I think it's better for me personally compared to low bar. I have no real reasoning for that apart from that I think the HB position simulates the jumping action better than low bar (could be wrong about that). I'd consider trying it though and see if it helps.

MEBM is good. It sucks at the time but you feel like you accomplished something at the end when your legs are tingling and you're sucking up air haha.
MEBM makes me pass out. Unless I'm doing half squats instead of full squats with it.

Yeah I agree with both of you lol. It's tough but it feels great once you're done.

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Week 1/3 - ON/Volume

Gym:

Full squat: warmup, 1x6@70kgs, 3x5@140kgs, 1x20@90kgs (MEBM)

Unilateral calf raises: 3x20/leg@110kgs

GHR: 1x10@12kgs, 1x10@16kgs, 1x10@24kgs, 1x10@8kgs

This was fucking hard after yesterday. I actually felt like throwing up after the MEBM squats. But the good thing is that I have no real pain in my hips any more doing full squats. I really think the key to getting rid of that for me was increasing hip/groin flexibility. I thought I had good hip/groin flexibility but I was wrong. Stretching them 2x a day (doing front hip flexor lunges and squat stretches) has really helped.

I subbed GHRs for BSS today because I want to get more hamstring work in. I would have been too fatigued for them anyway after squats + a MEBM set. I'll find a spot for them though somewhere

Edit: got some of the KB weights wrong.

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Super impressed with your 8/12 video! :highfive:

Getting up their equally well off single and double leg. Is either easier for you naturally?

Keep it up! :headbang:

Thanks man. I guess I'm more of a natural 1-legged jumper with my athletics background but I have improved a lot in 2-legged jumping since I started practising it more often. I like  being able to jump off either so I'll probably try and keep improving both simultaneously.

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