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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Sucking at half squats?
« on: March 18, 2013, 02:00:55 am »Reviving this thread after recent discussion in raptor's journal:It's still terrible. How can a half squat be MUCH harder than a full squat? What is my weakness that is causing this?
entropy's point of view:leverage...
avishek:I don't think it's odd at all, for myself it's the same thing, but ill have to double check today.
Yes leverage: typical gym goers will shift forward during the descent and shift backwards during the ascent. This is not possible during a full squat. Most gym goers only do quarter squats anyway and this hip activation is absent.
If you practice good form however and don't allow motion in the sagittal plane, and consciously work on amortizing right above parallel in a vert specific way, it should be very hard with similar load in full squat. Need videos though to rly see what I'm saying.
raptor:Well when I do full squats I can go past that half squat point without being too active at that angle since I'm going to go much deeper, and I can deal with stopping the weight at the bottom MUCH better. Also, since I initiate the movement from the hole, which is easier for me apparently, I already have momentum when I reach the half squat position so...
me:I hear all of you, fair points. Still it doesn't feel like making sense. For the same person, especially an experienced trainee like raptor, half squats should be easier than full ones.
Not sure though, can't back it up. Also leverages are indeed are very important, each one is different.
I did experiment today after this chat, after warming up i did singles of full vs half squats, ramping weight. Wanted to see how it looks , in terms of form , transition , power output etc.
Will post vid later.
And here's the vid from today. I can't get any conclusions out of it. Reversal felt the same. Concentric felt much more powerful on halfs of course, as you can see from bar speed too.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGCcLsUVJuU
You guys film your fulls/halfs too if you like , might be interesting to see how each one's form differentiates in the two movements.
Those look like a normal half squat to full squat form. If you want to use the halfs to peak out your vert, focus everything on that reversal, the very split second you go from down to up. You can make that point in the range of motion very strong and very tolerable to high eccentric overload if you work at it. Use the full squats for hypertrophy, primary strength gains, the halfs for specificity and special strength specific to the movement you want to improve.