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Power clean is from the floor bro. Like im telling you, no matter what you say... You're wrong. Just like a Power squat clean is from the floor then squatted. Hang clean is no more than 90 degree knee bend. Hang squat clean is when you squat it dumb shit. Jesus. I was making a point that his vid doesn't belong in the power clean section because it is not a power clean. It is a hang clean.

There is no such thing as a power squat clean. Power refers to catching with the hips above parallel. Catching with the hips below parallel is just a clean (as in clean and jerk).

http://crossfitoneworld.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf90553ef0120a9381696970b-800wi

Oh this guy looks like a pretty avid squatter... Are his knees even close to passed his toes? No, I know I can do a free squat without my knees coming close to passing my toes. A "squat" requires your knees to be directly above your toes to reap ANY explosive or reactive benefits.

And I KNOW he did a Hang Clean... BUT the category says POWER CLEAN. Not Hang Clean. 2 completely different lifts. Therefore his lift doesn't count as it wasn't from the floor. Jeez, I never dissed his lift. It was a good one, just not a power clean.

This guy looks like a pretty avid squatter. In fact he's a world class olympic weightlifter.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUHpuMcje84" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUHpuMcje84</a>

No. The "power" part means he doesn't drop into a full squat in the catch. He did a hang power clean. This is a hang clean:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJMwdf0lIk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJMwdf0lIk</a>

You just confirmed my point. I KNOW he did a hang clean. But a hang clean does not count as a full power clean. As power clean stems from the floor, not the hang. THANK YOU.

He did a hang power clean. It's actually harder than a power clean.

What the fuck is a "Hang Power Clean?" You either do a Hang Clean, or a Power Clean. It's not one thing. A Hang Clean is pretty much half of a power clean.

I never said he didn't fully clean it. I said it wasn't a power clean AKA clean from the floor.

Knees over toes is not absolutely fine. Where'd you get the pic? A elementary health ed. book?

It's what you're calling a hang clean. A hang clean is a squat clean done from the hang. You're misunderstanding what clean is.

Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe who's one of the leading authorities on the biomechanics of barbell training...

Quote from: tw0ey3s on February 10, 2011, 02:38:09 pm

Quote from: Raptor on February 09, 2011, 04:58:10 pm

Well yeah, because the box squat removes like 100% of the reactive component of the squat, and as an athlete you're not glad it does that.

Box squats (Parallel) are a 100%  reactive and explosive movement. Anyone who plays sports (other than bodybuilding) should veer away from Free Squats (Ass to grass).

Explosive? Definitely. Reactive? No buddy. You're pausing on the box for 2 seconds to take away the plyometric portion. Who is this, he reminds me of squidward from TVS.

It probably is squid.

Quote from: Raptor on February 09, 2011, 04:58:10 pm

Well yeah, because the box squat removes like 100% of the reactive component of the squat, and as an athlete you're not glad it does that.

You're wrong. When jumping, when does your ass lower beyond your knees? If you jump like that, kill yourself now. Box squats (Parallel) are a 100%  reactive and explosive movement. Anyone who plays sports (other than bodybuilding) should veer away from Free Squats (Ass to grass).

The squat is a general strength exercise. It doesn't have to look anything like a jump to improve your lower body strength and power and therefore jump.

Oh and in Flander's Power Clean video, his lift doesn't count because he did a "Hang Clean." A Power Clean is from the floor. Thank you.

In your post, your option doesn't count because he did a hang power clean. A hang clean is a full clean done from the hang.