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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Achilles tendon rupture
« on: July 14, 2011, 06:44:24 pm »Ya plenty of tempo and low intensity plyo, nothing was actually wrong with it before it ruptured and it wasn't exactly at the front of my mind.
Did the plenty of tempo and low intensity plyo's replicate the amount of strain applied to it during rugby training?.
Maybe it was just bad luck.
Since your considering sprinting, I would be very weary from now that your prone to Achilles problems. You need to put an awful lot of consideration/thinking/conditioning into those achilles. Powerlifting alone won't cure the problem. Keep them conditioned at all times as the loads during sprinting on the Achilles are incredible.
Yea as close as I could, I had been back practicing for around 3 weeks before it happened, slowly working back up.
Sprinting is a pretty long term goal at the moment, just thinking of powerlifting since I'll have something low impact to train for over the next year or two and it will at least help having a big strength ceiling to work with once I am ready to start doing sprints or any kind of reactive training again.
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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Achilles tendon rupture
« on: July 13, 2011, 07:28:00 pm »So I stopped logging my training about a month ago with a hamstring tear that I was rehabbing. Finally got back to close to full health and started going back out to rugby practice and today I had a partial rupture of my Achilles cutting during practice.
After hamstring rehab, did you do any conditioning for your Achilles such as running to build-up its tolerance?.
Seems to me like you went into it too fast, too soon with no respect with just how much pressure you apply to the Achilles when running?.
Ya plenty of tempo and low intensity plyo, nothing was actually wrong with it before it ruptured and it wasn't exactly at the front of my mind.
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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Achilles tendon rupture
« on: July 12, 2011, 11:05:40 pm »
So I stopped logging my training about a month ago with a hamstring tear that I was rehabbing. Finally got back to close to full health and started going back out to rugby practice and today I had a partial rupture of my Achilles cutting during practice.
Does anyone have experience with this type of injury? surgery, no surgery? I'm getting it checked out tomorrow.
Also think I might retire temporarily from rugby and do some powerlifting for the next year or so, maybe find some track & field events once I'm fully recovered any suggestions for fun anaerobic t&f events I could try learning would be appreciated too since I think i need more than just 60m indoor to compete recreationally.
shit's rough but I just have to find something else to enjoy
edit: woops seems like there's already a thread on these, was a pretty weird sensation though, i thought someone had run up behind me and kicked me in the back of the leg, i yelled and turned around but nobody was there. . .
Does anyone have experience with this type of injury? surgery, no surgery? I'm getting it checked out tomorrow.
Also think I might retire temporarily from rugby and do some powerlifting for the next year or so, maybe find some track & field events once I'm fully recovered any suggestions for fun anaerobic t&f events I could try learning would be appreciated too since I think i need more than just 60m indoor to compete recreationally.
shit's rough but I just have to find something else to enjoy edit: woops seems like there's already a thread on these, was a pretty weird sensation though, i thought someone had run up behind me and kicked me in the back of the leg, i yelled and turned around but nobody was there. . .
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Performance Training Blog / Re: length-tension-motor-pool Volume Sessions (LTMP-VOLUME sessions)
« on: April 15, 2011, 06:58:03 pm »
What do you think about really light ltmp as a form of rehab for certain muscle groups? Once the inflammation is gone and there is only shortened ROM and weakness do you think it would be an effective treatment?
I was thinking of trying really light rdl/wide stance box squat for my hamstring once it gets a little better.
I was thinking of trying really light rdl/wide stance box squat for my hamstring once it gets a little better.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Heavy Eccentrics
« on: April 15, 2011, 01:13:25 am »
Sweet thanks for the info man, I completely forgot about weight releasers!
edit: it seems strange to me that an athlete would have minimal eccentric strength gains from concentric only training. If someone made giant gains in their deadlift say 400lbs, something way beyond the extra 30% strength of eccentric contraction and whatever minimal eccentric gains they get since they dropped the bar at the top on each rep. Would it be possible that they couldn't at all lower their max deadlift?
edit: it seems strange to me that an athlete would have minimal eccentric strength gains from concentric only training. If someone made giant gains in their deadlift say 400lbs, something way beyond the extra 30% strength of eccentric contraction and whatever minimal eccentric gains they get since they dropped the bar at the top on each rep. Would it be possible that they couldn't at all lower their max deadlift?
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Heavy Eccentrics
« on: April 14, 2011, 08:39:03 pm »yeah...and they'd be better off just using depth jumps and depth drops
Speaking of which one of the phases I've seen did have altitude drops. . .from a regular bench. . . with a 45lb plate in your hands. . .at the end of your workout.
I'm volunteering and hoping to get an internship there next year so hopefully I'll be able to learn some of the rational behind this stuff and try to convince them otherwise.
Now why in the world would someone do that? Maybe if you don't have a higher box or something, but still
dunnolol we've got decent sized plyo boxes
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Article & Video Discussion / Re: The "glute guy" praises the quads & calfs - quadNation 4 lyfe.
« on: April 14, 2011, 11:11:38 am »
I really enjoyed the article but it seemed to get pretty crap reception on the CF forum.
http://www.charliefrancis.com/community/showthread.php?45700-Bret-Contreras-The-Importance-of-Load-Vector-in-Sprinting-Enhancement.
I agreed with all the stuff on muscle involvement in vj and sprints etc but after using heavy hip thrusts for a month or so in as a substitute for deadlifts I would never replace axial loading stuff with anteroposterior exercises, even for sprinting. They certainly make good accessory/activation tools though.
Any thoughts on the validity of his research? Always thought he was a pretty decent read so its kinda strange seeing everyone dismiss the article.
http://www.charliefrancis.com/community/showthread.php?45700-Bret-Contreras-The-Importance-of-Load-Vector-in-Sprinting-Enhancement.
I agreed with all the stuff on muscle involvement in vj and sprints etc but after using heavy hip thrusts for a month or so in as a substitute for deadlifts I would never replace axial loading stuff with anteroposterior exercises, even for sprinting. They certainly make good accessory/activation tools though.
Any thoughts on the validity of his research? Always thought he was a pretty decent read so its kinda strange seeing everyone dismiss the article.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Heavy Eccentrics
« on: April 14, 2011, 10:51:55 am »yeah...and they'd be better off just using depth jumps and depth drops
Speaking of which one of the phases I've seen did have altitude drops. . .from a regular bench. . . with a 45lb plate in your hands. . .at the end of your workout.
I'm volunteering and hoping to get an internship there next year so hopefully I'll be able to learn some of the rational behind this stuff and try to convince them otherwise.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Heavy Eccentrics
« on: April 14, 2011, 08:41:06 am »There are not many sports that require heavy eccentric contractions more than skilled concentric contractions so excessive eccentric work would thus be contraindicated.
I think anything with sprinting or jumping requires heavy eccentric contractions? I can kinda see what you mean by super heavy weight room eccentrics not having great carryover if that's what you're getting at though?
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Power pull vs power clean
« on: April 14, 2011, 08:32:10 am »<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HqPs6G0IuY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HqPs6G0IuY</a>
I've seen these before it is more of a drill for getting aggressively under the bar than it is a tool for sports performance. I'd consider it strictly a technique drill.
Generally pretty useless anyway since the best way to get confident and quick underneath the bar is to drill heavy %s of the lifts repeatedly once your form is decent. I highly doubt this kid learnt how to get under the bar by doing those with 30kgs.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Heavy Eccentrics
« on: April 13, 2011, 09:53:24 pm »
My university's s@c department likes to use exercise selection and programming that I find questionable at best, they seem to like using the concurrent method with fullbody workouts and some "functional" training stuff. Anyway in one of the lower body strength days prescribed for the rugby team they had them doing heavy back squat negatives with 110% max for four reps, having two spotters assist the weight back up to the starting position.
My thoughts are that if you are weak enough to be able to recover from this sort of training you might as well stick to a simple linear progression and not worry about anything fancy. And if you are strong enough to benefit or need some kind of supramaximal training stimulus you would just burn yourself out and it would be incredibly dangerous to both you and the spotters.
Is there any actual benefit from this type of training or have they gone full retard on this one?
My thoughts are that if you are weak enough to be able to recover from this sort of training you might as well stick to a simple linear progression and not worry about anything fancy. And if you are strong enough to benefit or need some kind of supramaximal training stimulus you would just burn yourself out and it would be incredibly dangerous to both you and the spotters.
Is there any actual benefit from this type of training or have they gone full retard on this one?
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