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Raptor

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Re: Jump LOWER bands
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2012, 04:51:15 pm »
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

Jacob Hiller

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Re: Jump LOWER bands
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2012, 06:36:13 pm »
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Dang, this thing got big... no notifications for me...

Lance I agree... when I said bands are superior, I mean to say that bands accommodating weights are superior to dead weight alone.

The resistance curve of bands alone is too steep to accommodate a lifters more natural strength curve.

In cases where pure band strength would be used I think supplemental exercises can be done to compliment it.

Thus I would still say that -  pure band exercises + supplemental exercises > non band exercises alone.

In this case someone who perhaps didn't have access to weights but only to body weight and bands could get the accelerated eccentric benefits of the bands in addition to their body weight exercise benefits.

A person having access to a full gym and bands would be better off using accommodating resistance.

Perhaps there is something to be said for pure band resistance retraining the strength curve itself to be steeper...

But that's kind of another thread... or maybe not.

What I intended in my first statement was accommodating resistance.

I'll have to read the rest of this later.

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Re: Jump LOWER bands
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2012, 07:39:04 pm »
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I don't use the power jumper for attaching bands in the power rack.  :o I use regular jumpstretch bands. The main reasons I use the lightened setup in the weight room more than the regular bands at the bottom setup are that I beleive for jumping and running that the eccentric strength developed via plyos and sprints carries over much better running and jumping (funnily enough this should come as no big surprise), and that the extra eccentric load of bands in the power rack tends to cause more soreness (longer recovery).

As a result I use the band resistance sparingly or with lighter loads for more explosive movements when I am trying to reduce the impact on an athletes joints (if they are playing a lot of sport for example, but are already pretty strong I might incorporate fast and explosive speed squats with the bands as a means of developing explosive strength without using more jumping drills).

One final reason I use the lightened setup more is that I don't feel the need to be as precise with the weights. Here is an example in my own training. I do a lot of heavy front squat singles. I worked up to 6 singles at 165kg but was really struggling to increase the load past that. SO I started doing 4 singles with 165 and then another 4 using lightened band setup but with an extra 20-30kg on the bar. A month later I was able to 5-6 singles with 175kg.

I didn't put too much scientific thought into this, I just slapped some extra plates on and then added the bands to help me out at the bottom. Getting used to the extra weight in your hands and the gradual reduction of band assistance really forces you to accelerate up through the lift which seems to have helped up my strength nicely.