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got a PR standing vert of 1.5 inches , which is enormous for me

my concern isn't so much over the accuracy of the mat, but rather the way i jumped.  Previously when i tested my vert on the mat i would jump and just swing up both arms.  This time what i did was try to touch an object with 1 arm, while keeping the other relaxed.   I'm unsure if part of the PR height was  because i jumped and only reached up with one arm which made me land slightly leg bent, or if the jump was really legit and jumping while trying to touch an object really did help me jump significantly higher

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1_oyxkR2k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1_oyxkR2k</a>

i measured the ceiling a couple weeks ago at 10 ft 8.

need to re measure my reach since haven't in a couple years last time it was about 7 ft 10-11

on the jump i touched the ceiling with a couple fingers, which means i got a little higher than 10 ft 8

Hey mike , you know i follow you and support you from the beginning!
As i told you in youtube , i think its 3-4'' off.
I remember you were 7'11'' like me , so 10'8'' = 33''. Give 1 inch for reach and 1 inch for getting a bit more than touching it , max 35'' if you ask me.
Think of it that way: if you were 37''/7'11'' you would be able to touch a 10'' rim 4'' below your wrist from SVJ.

I dont trust jumpmats and hangtimes etc , they give a good estimation but the only legit method is [highest touch - standing reach]

Btw , legit 33+ is still awesome for SVJ , your progress is amazing , keep it up!   

how can we tell from your vid, kingfish??

also, a previous thread on this fourm regarding the jump mat and vertec for vert testing

http://www.adarq.org/forum/strength-power-reactivity-speed-discussion/jump-mats/?action=printpage


as far as the mechanics of the jump go.  if you watch in slow mo i do land actually pretty straight legged, the only thing i see is that my left foot kind of hitches a little which could possibly start the timer early.  I don't think it would since the majority of my bodyweight is still on the mat, i'll play around with it next time though and see if it starts early if i do that

^ heres a 34" vid i took before. compare and see if he is any higher. my measured SVJs are very accurate to the inch  

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWj-FXmox8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWj-FXmox8</a>

props, nasty PRs still coming.

regardless of if or why it happened, jumping while reaching up for objects will lead to the highest jumps, more often than not. but ya changing the way you jump on the mat, will change the accuracy of your results slightly when comparing to other styles of jumps on the mat.

pC

Just find a vertec dude.

i had a jump mat, it was pretty accurate.. maybe 1" off on avg.. landing knees real bent, 2-3" off.. but as long you're landing stiff, it will be a pretty good measure.

vertec isn't necessarily any better than jump mat, i mean some people or some jumps, your timing may be off/arm slightly further away than optimal which could lead to lower measures.. the only good thing is it doesn't really over-inflated vert unless you cheat your reach..

timing/form can definitely be an issue with each jump.

Wow you were in Kelly Baggett's latest article! http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/HowMuchCanVertBeImproved.html

Didn't know you were working with him.

Anyway after reading that, I was thinking that you (Ori) still haven't had all the improvement possible on movement efficiency. Your run up looks different than what most high leapers do. ANd your penultimate looks really small. I don't know if the large penultimate is the way for everyone, but certainly yours is smaller than I'd expect for a 40+ jumper and furthermore, your depth is pretty high during your RVJ in your dunk vid. Baggett didn't mention that though so I was a bit confused I guess. And I'm sure you've already thought about this.

What do you think?

edit: not all great leapers have a deep depth during their RVJ, but most do. Maybe you have more FT fibers so you take a shorter stepped more reactive run up