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damn, sick jump.

So much more bend that Adarqui... also throwing those legs so far forward... lower on the penultimate as well. This is how I'd love to see Andrew jump as a technique but you know, he's with the "I jump by feel thing" so...

uh he doesn't get more bend than me in the plant, lol.. it's either the same, or depending on the jump, i actually get more bend than that.

U BLIND MANG, BLIND.

Yeah I should've said "hip" bend... his knees don't go forward as much as yours

He has more of a "reach out" plant while you have more of a "reach under" plant.

Very very quick jump

Raptor, about the hip bend, I think it is in part due to genetics/limb structure. If you lok at the way cskin walks, his legs are slightly pointed outwards, meaning he has a glute preference. People with straighter legs, or legs pointed inwards may use the deeper quad bend more. Examples include Guy dupuy, maybe adarqui, AUT, myself.. it's hard for me to throw my legs out to much actually

it's pretty much the same spot, the 2nd pic and my pic, right before the concentric.. dno, it's obvious that his knees aren't way in front of his toes like mine, and he's in much more of a side plant.

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Quote from: tkxii on December 20, 2010, 06:04:41 pm

Very very quick jump

Raptor, about the hip bend, I think it is in part due to genetics/limb structure. If you lok at the way cskin walks, his legs are slightly pointed outwards, meaning he has a glute preference. People with straighter legs, or legs pointed inwards may use the deeper quad bend more. Examples include Guy dupuy, maybe adarqui, AUT, myself.. it's hard for me to throw my legs out to much actually

I'm not sure about that. I still think Adarqui could get higher with more posterior chain, he's currently destroying his knees, (they look to be under extreme tension when he jumps judging by their position) in my opinion because of this high dependence on quads and their usage in jumping. To me, that's sub-optimal biomechanics. I know I'm on an island while saying what I'm about to say, but I don't really think it depends that much on the individual.

Yes, it does depend on the individual, but I think more in strength than in structure. I think in terms in structure the body will alter the jump stance (feet wider apart) and stuff like that, rather than muscle involvement. Muscle involvement depends on strength IMO.

That's a good point, but it wouldn't be optimal to focus on your glutes to make yourself jump higher if you have a natural quad dominance due to your limb structure, it would be better to focus on your strengths. I mean, it would be interesting to see if a quad dominant jumper could reach his potential by strengthening just the glutes, and vice versa. When I neglected my quads my VJ didn't improve, but my deadlift did. I definitely threw my legs out more

There are many great jumpers that  jump like adarqui, maybe they hurt their knees too. I'm thinking AUT and Guy Dupuy off the top of my head right now. Neither of them use much speed in their runup to achieve near-max vert, typical of quad dominance. Both can take one step VJs that look insane. Adarq takes a full runup with 4 steps but they are really short. All the hip dominant jumpers can take a faster runup i've seen, longer strides.

Quote from: tkxii on December 20, 2010, 06:04:41 pm

Very very quick jump

Raptor, about the hip bend, I think it is in part due to genetics/limb structure. If you lok at the way cskin walks, his legs are slightly pointed outwards, meaning he has a glute preference. People with straighter legs, or legs pointed inwards may use the deeper quad bend more. Examples include Guy dupuy, maybe adarqui, AUT, myself.. it's hard for me to throw my legs out to much actually

I'm not sure about that. I still think Adarqui could get higher with more posterior chain, he's currently destroying his knees, (they look to be under extreme tension when he jumps judging by their position) in my opinion because of this high dependence on quads and their usage in jumping. To me, that's sub-optimal biomechanics. I know I'm on an island while saying what I'm about to say, but I don't really think it depends that much on the individual.

Yes, it does depend on the individual, but I think more in strength than in structure. I think in terms in structure the body will alter the jump stance (feet wider apart) and stuff like that, rather than muscle involvement. Muscle involvement depends on strength IMO.

i'm destroying my knees folks, because i'm not a "p-cain jumper"