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Re: beast
« Reply #390 on: August 01, 2011, 10:15:52 am »
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gah, fuck that kid, life is so unfair.



why, yes, yes i would.
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Re: beast
« Reply #391 on: August 01, 2011, 10:33:03 am »
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gah, fuck that kid, life is so unfair.



why, yes, yes i would.

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Re: beast
« Reply #392 on: August 04, 2011, 10:33:52 am »
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: beast
« Reply #393 on: August 06, 2011, 11:13:29 am »
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Double amputee, Oscar Pistorius, make top qualifying standards for the Olympics. (Not the paralympics... he already has world records in those)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6smGf875jck" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6smGf875jck</a>

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Re: beast
« Reply #394 on: August 07, 2011, 06:38:33 am »
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Double amputee, Oscar Pistorius, make top qualifying standards for the Olympics. (Not the paralympics... he already has world records in those)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6smGf875jck" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6smGf875jck</a>


He probably wont be able to compete though, unless they changed the rules. I remember some years back and double amputee ran some fast 400m and could not compete in the olympics and world champs.

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Re: beast
« Reply #395 on: August 07, 2011, 07:21:56 am »
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Can't these artificial legs help? I don't want to sound like a jerk but can't they actually give you an advantage?
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All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
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All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: beast
« Reply #396 on: August 07, 2011, 09:38:13 am »
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Can't these artificial legs help? I don't want to sound like a jerk but can't they actually give you an advantage?

yes, they can. he's basically not even doing the same thing as running, mechanically speaking.

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/07/oscar-pistorius-science-and-engineering.html

From a different (later) post on that site:

Quote from: The Science of Sport
Pistorius had an eventful year off the track - a boating accident which was alleged to have been the result of alcohol, a night in jail after allegations of assault, and finally, a research publication by his own scientists which suggested that he enjoyed an advantage of 10 seconds in a 400m race.
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Re: beast
« Reply #397 on: August 07, 2011, 02:22:47 pm »
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Read his dispute over prosthetics in wikipedia. It's all well cited, at least from the bits I've read. CAS actually repealed IAAF's ban on him because they didn't present enough evidence to show he had an unfair advantage, especially when weighed against his disadvantages like his slower starts. (In the video you can see he's still behind everyone at around the 150m mark.

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Re: beast
« Reply #398 on: August 08, 2011, 09:31:52 am »
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Read his dispute over prosthetics in wikipedia. It's all well cited, at least from the bits I've read. CAS actually repealed IAAF's ban on him because they didn't present enough evidence to show he had an unfair advantage, especially when weighed against his disadvantages like his slower starts. (In the video you can see he's still behind everyone at around the 150m mark.

doesn't matter. he's NOT RUNNING. what he's doing is a different thing. the fact that his disadvantage in the start might make up for his huge advantage in the upright portion of the race doesn't deny the fact that the blades give him a huge advantage while moving forward at high speed.

plus it's only a matter of time before they come up with blades that eliminate the problems with the start. what, are they gonna calibrate the technology so it meets some random standard for correlation with human speed?
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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« Reply #399 on: August 08, 2011, 10:23:54 am »
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I'd like to see this paper or whatever that says he's not actually running. Not to be rude or anything, I'm actually genuinely interested. Whether or not he runs doesn't change the fact that he's a beast. He's still the world record holder in the paralympics for the 100m and 200m.

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Re: beast
« Reply #400 on: August 08, 2011, 11:40:46 am »
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I'd like to see this paper or whatever that says he's not actually running. Not to be rude or anything, I'm actually genuinely interested. Whether or not he runs doesn't change the fact that he's a beast. He's still the world record holder in the paralympics for the 100m and 200m.

click on the link in my earlier post.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: beast
« Reply #401 on: August 08, 2011, 12:46:18 pm »
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Oh, durrr.... cool. Sorry, my current job is making my IQ drop more every day, I swear.

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Re: beast
« Reply #402 on: September 04, 2011, 05:13:04 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY_mz8jWkog" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY_mz8jWkog</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L-WhdPBaiE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L-WhdPBaiE</a>
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: beast
« Reply #403 on: September 12, 2011, 05:02:03 pm »
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Myree Bowden front squat:

Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: beast
« Reply #404 on: September 12, 2011, 08:36:47 pm »
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Read his dispute over prosthetics in wikipedia. It's all well cited, at least from the bits I've read. CAS actually repealed IAAF's ban on him because they didn't present enough evidence to show he had an unfair advantage, especially when weighed against his disadvantages like his slower starts. (In the video you can see he's still behind everyone at around the 150m mark.

doesn't matter. he's NOT RUNNING. what he's doing is a different thing. the fact that his disadvantage in the start might make up for his huge advantage in the upright portion of the race doesn't deny the fact that the blades give him a huge advantage while moving forward at high speed.

plus it's only a matter of time before they come up with blades that eliminate the problems with the start. what, are they gonna calibrate the technology so it meets some random standard for correlation with human speed?

Whether or not you want to consider what he is doing as "running" or not is immaterial to the debate.  The salient point is that blades dramatically change the dynamics of the race.  Pistorius seems to be really passionate about track and field and it's very much a feel good story which gets track and field some more exposure (which it desperately needs).  The CAS decision was purely political. 
This will go on until Oscar (or another para athlete) runs a world leading time or wins a diamond league event.  Only then will the able-bodied athletes federations whose medals and money he is taking point out the litany of differences between running on compressive blades...