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Re: beast
« Reply #225 on: March 12, 2011, 04:17:04 am »
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Why do all people seem to bench press with suicide grip nowadays?

Not all people do but some really good lifters do, its easier on the shoulder joint and easier on the connective tissue in people who have pec tear issues for some.  There is nothing wrong with using a false grip IF you know what youre doing.

Yeah but I have a feeling a lot of people use the suicide grip because they think that's the WAY you're supposed to bench press, that's the problem.

It's interesting because, according to Pavel Tsatsouline, the most powerful "arm extension" when pushing something has it's point in the base of the thumb (several inches lower, on the bottom of the palm) area. So it would make sense for the bar to sit there if you're to apply maximum power to it. But, you know, better safe than bench press.

Yea beginners shouldnt begin with a false grip and people using a full grip need to learn to let the bar sit in the bottom of the palm.  But a false grip has its benefits if you know how to use it, especially for people who have shoulder/pec injuries or issues.

good video on it

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBKGesyFwk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBKGesyFwk</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBKGesyFwk

I dont't understand how from anatomical point of view a simple movement of the thumb can have an impact on the shoulder? The muscles that moved the thumb have origins no higher then the elbow

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Re: beast
« Reply #226 on: March 12, 2011, 04:26:36 am »
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Why do all people seem to bench press with suicide grip nowadays?

Not all people do but some really good lifters do, its easier on the shoulder joint and easier on the connective tissue in people who have pec tear issues for some.  There is nothing wrong with using a false grip IF you know what youre doing.

Yeah but I have a feeling a lot of people use the suicide grip because they think that's the WAY you're supposed to bench press, that's the problem.

It's interesting because, according to Pavel Tsatsouline, the most powerful "arm extension" when pushing something has it's point in the base of the thumb (several inches lower, on the bottom of the palm) area. So it would make sense for the bar to sit there if you're to apply maximum power to it. But, you know, better safe than bench press.

Yea beginners shouldnt begin with a false grip and people using a full grip need to learn to let the bar sit in the bottom of the palm.  But a false grip has its benefits if you know how to use it, especially for people who have shoulder/pec injuries or issues.

good video on it

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBKGesyFwk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBKGesyFwk</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBKGesyFwk

I dont't understand how from anatomical point of view a simple movement of the thumb can have an impact on the shoulder? The muscles that moved the thumb have origins no higher then the elbow

Its not the movement of the thumb itself that shifts the tension, its the elbow/shoulder position it enables and the difference in tricep vs pectoral involvement from the false grip.
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Re: beast
« Reply #227 on: March 12, 2011, 06:35:24 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6uuVVTLmHA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6uuVVTLmHA</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6uuVVTLmHA

beast.....

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Now that's what I call "beast". :wowthatwasnutswtf:
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Re: beast
« Reply #228 on: March 12, 2011, 10:16:08 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KBb7ZxSi3k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KBb7ZxSi3k</a>

Hicksons pulls are insanely explosive. Good work man.
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Re: beast
« Reply #229 on: March 13, 2011, 04:56:54 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KBb7ZxSi3k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KBb7ZxSi3k</a>

Hicksons pulls are insanely explosive. Good work man.

Yeah almost looks like a clean.

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Re: beast
« Reply #230 on: March 13, 2011, 05:30:18 pm »
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Will be interesting to see if any of them can surpass Andy Bolton's 1008lbs.


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Re: beast
« Reply #231 on: March 16, 2011, 07:41:40 am »
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Vernon Davis

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Re: beast
« Reply #232 on: March 22, 2011, 06:33:27 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOS44ARrKyM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOS44ARrKyM</a>

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Re: beast
« Reply #233 on: March 22, 2011, 10:15:35 am »
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Danny Ilabaca - Choose Not To Fall.



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBaCOmXqwgo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBaCOmXqwgo</a>



Best of Daniel Ilabaca.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnRkk40Rabo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnRkk40Rabo</a>


0:46 amazing how he can judge that.




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Re: beast
« Reply #234 on: March 22, 2011, 05:14:59 pm »
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Danny Ilabaca - Choose Not To Fall.



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBaCOmXqwgo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBaCOmXqwgo</a>



Best of Daniel Ilabaca.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnRkk40Rabo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnRkk40Rabo</a>


0:46 amazing how he can judge that.




Original Link: http://www.parkour.com/





Yeah hes a god damn beast. Ive trained with him on one occasion. Its just amazing to see what he can do.

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Re: beast
« Reply #235 on: March 22, 2011, 05:17:11 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0St40SsznuU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0St40SsznuU</a>

WTF  :ninja: Check out last dunk + the missed btl attempt from a feet behind the ft line  :-X

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« Reply #236 on: March 22, 2011, 06:08:47 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0St40SsznuU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0St40SsznuU</a>

WTF  :ninja: Check out last dunk + the missed btl attempt from a feet behind the ft line  :-X

man he is just ridiculous.. usa should put him on olympic team, without any training he could prolly own in high jump/long jump.

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Re: beast
« Reply #237 on: March 23, 2011, 06:27:50 am »
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McCandless said that even without training White qualified for the Olympic trials in the high jump by leaping 7-4 and the long jump with a distance of 25-7.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4307/james-white-vs-a-jumping-myth

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Re: beast
« Reply #238 on: March 24, 2011, 06:46:48 am »
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: beast
« Reply #239 on: March 24, 2011, 03:07:25 pm »
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