Author Topic: ATTENTION HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS ATTENTION (Read 7113 times)

adarqui · « **on:** December 02, 2010, 11:53:11 pm »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5KJLAgwVk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5KJLAgwVk</a>

fyi, not good.

adarqui · « **Reply #1 on:** December 02, 2010, 11:59:19 pm »

uh how not to do MR hurdle jumps:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJ8y75oARE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJ8y75oARE</a>

adarqui · « **Reply #2 on:** December 03, 2010, 12:00:53 am »

how not to do ankle jumps:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj3CpFDkQQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj3CpFDkQQ</a>

how not to do depth jumps:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roLXCEVdwrM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roLXCEVdwrM</a>

bottom line, youtube.com/verticaljumpcenter is pretty shitty.

adarqui · « **Reply #3 on:** December 03, 2010, 12:05:14 am »

how not to get strong for jumping:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNOh2rr3qls" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNOh2rr3qls</a>

holy crap.

LBSS · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2010, 01:04:47 pm »

What's wrong with leg pressing?

djoe · « **Reply #5 on:** December 04, 2010, 05:02:05 pm »

wtf is that depth jump???

LBSS · « **Reply #6 on:** December 04, 2010, 05:04:37 pm »

Quote from: djoe on December 04, 2010, 05:02:05 pm

wtf is that depth jump???

Funny as hell it what it is.

mattyg35 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 04, 2010, 08:05:12 pm »

Quote from: adarqui on December 02, 2010, 11:53:11 pm

fyi, not good.

Quote from: adarqui on December 02, 2010, 11:59:19 pm

uh how not to do MR hurdle jumps:

Quote from: adarqui on December 03, 2010, 12:00:53 am

how not to do ankle jumps:

how not to do depth jumps:

Andrew would you mind writing up in more detail about what should(n't) be done in these exercises.
Thanks.

bball2020 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2010, 01:46:22 am »

as a side note, i do really like hitting your head on things on depth jumps, you get higher obviously..

adarqui · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2010, 03:18:14 am »

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Andrew would you mind writing up in more detail about what should(n't) be done in these exercises.
Thanks.

sure

Quote from: mattyg35 on December 04, 2010, 08:05:12 pm

Quote from: adarqui on December 02, 2010, 11:53:11 pm

fyi, not good.

bad:
- incorrect arm swing timing
- rounding back on landing
- letting heel smash into the floor
- spending way too much time on the ground

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Quote from: adarqui on December 02, 2010, 11:59:19 pm
uh how not to do MR hurdle jumps:

bad:
- arm swing timing
- spending too long on the ground

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Quote from: adarqui on December 03, 2010, 12:00:53 am
how not to do ankle jumps:

bad:
- mushy landing, legs too bent

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how not to do depth jumps:

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absolutely horrible..
- need arm action while stepping off box
- need visual dorsiflexion of foot stepping off box and before landing
- need timed arm swing on landing so you can propel yourself right back up etc

TKXII · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2010, 09:44:04 am »

Wow haven't been here in a while. Interesting stuff going on.
For the first two, the big white guy, his terrible form is more a product of his low vertical. He does not have the reactive strength to perform a tuck jump with good form and enough hangtime.

For the ankle hops - he is not overloading his ankles as much as he could if he did not flex knee.

For leg press - he's not training for strength; he is lifting very slowly, stopping at bottom of motion wastes the kinetic energy that can be turned into an explosive lift. That type of lifting is good for endurance and general strength/hypertrophy maybe.

Lol I loved this thread by the way, worst depth jump I've ever seen. I felt lazier watching it

adarqui · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2010, 04:52:49 pm »

Quote from: tkxii on December 05, 2010, 09:44:04 am

Wow haven't been here in a while. Interesting stuff going on.
For the first two, the big white guy, his terrible form is more a product of his low vertical. He does not have the reactive strength to perform a tuck jump with good form and enough hangtime.

For the ankle hops - he is not overloading his ankles as much as he could if he did not flex knee.

yup

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For leg press - he's not training for strength; he is lifting very slowly, stopping at bottom of motion wastes the kinetic energy that can be turned into an explosive lift. That type of lifting is good for endurance and general strength/hypertrophy maybe.

i didn't rewatch the vid, but i remember the leg press he did looked really bad because of how his feet placement was, looked like he was using way too much "quad".. there's a way to do leg press that at least hits the hams/glutes a bit more, ie foot flat, feet placement a little higher.. i remember his feet were low and at the bottom his heels were off the plate.

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Lol I loved this thread by the way, worst depth jump I've ever seen. I felt lazier watching it

lol, that's not the worst i've seen if you can imagine that.. can't find the worst one i've seen, but it was so bad that i'm laughing right now thinking about it.

pc

Raptor · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2010, 06:55:16 pm »

I remember the worst... it was that slow guy that jumped like 4 inches for the rebound jump.

adarqui · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2010, 08:42:49 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on December 06, 2010, 06:55:16 pm

I remember the worst... it was that slow guy that jumped like 4 inches for the rebound jump.

it was some hockey guy, he lands and loads up for like 3 seconds swinging his arms back and forward, then jumps like 4".

lol

Raptor · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2010, 09:05:29 pm »

Quote from: adarqui on December 06, 2010, 08:42:49 pm

Quote from: Raptor on December 06, 2010, 06:55:16 pm
I remember the worst... it was that slow guy that jumped like 4 inches for the rebound jump.

it was some hockey guy, he lands and loads up for like 3 seconds swinging his arms back and forward, then jumps like 4".

lol

Yeah it's a way to suppress the stretch reflex, which is exactly what you should do for a depth jump since that's the key: remove any reactive rebound from the jump. Oh wait...

Maybe he read that it's more important to get higher than jump quicker, and he gets the highest off a standing vertical jump so he dropped, stopped and did a standing VJ. Or he could be retarded, who knows?

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