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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2011, 06:16:12 pm »
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Not even past 4th line & he's already talking high.

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I became interested in the ketogenic diet two and one-half years ago when I used a modified form (called a cyclical ketogenic diet) to reach a level of leanness that was previously impossible using other diets.

I guess the ketogenic diet is the only diet you can get lean on.

Sillies. You can get lean on a diet of junk food/exercise if you take note of caloric intake.

wow, go write a book and enlighten us all!

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2011, 06:20:12 pm »
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wow, go write a book and enlighten us all!

When it comes to diet, just keep it healthy & basic man.

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2011, 08:05:37 pm »
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the more extreme you want your results to be (according to your body/genetics) the more the "keep it healthy and basic" does not get the job done..

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2011, 08:57:36 pm »
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the more extreme you want your results to be (according to your body/genetics) the more the "keep it healthy and basic" does not get the job done..

Not necessarily
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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2011, 08:58:41 pm »
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the more extreme you want your results to be (according to your body/genetics) the more the "keep it healthy and basic" does not get the job done..

Nonsense.

Go tell that to Bolt on his diet of chicken nuggets LMAO.
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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2011, 09:17:58 pm »
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the more extreme you want your results to be (according to your body/genetics) the more the "keep it healthy and basic" does not get the job done..

Nonsense.

Go tell that to Bolt on his diet of chicken nuggets LMAO.

Bolt is quite possibly the biggest genetic freak of all time and almost certainly on a permanent diet of hugely effective and undetectable drugs. Nothing he does is relevant to a normal athlete.

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2011, 09:43:16 pm »
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Bolt is quite possibly the biggest genetic freak of all time and almost certainly on a permanent diet of hugely effective and undetectable drugs.

Fail on both accounts.

He had no great prospects as a 100m runner/didn't possess the speed. His squat & bench aren't huge (speed isn't primarily made there). Drug use is speculatory at best & since he still hasn't failed a drugs test, the fact remains he's clean till proven guilty.


Nothing he does is relevant to a normal athlete.

Yeah, If he followed the ketogenic diet that would put him in the 9.2's, right?.  

lol.


Can you imagine a whiteboy getting close to the record, what the reaction would be in the athletic community, if there are so many that believe Bolt is juiced to the gills. Jesus.
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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2011, 11:11:20 pm »
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Fail on both accounts.

He had no great prospects as a 100m runner/didn't possess the speed. His squat & bench aren't huge (speed isn't primarily made there). Drug use is speculatory at best & since he still hasn't failed a drugs test, the fact remains he's clean till proven guilty.

He was running mid-low 10s at 16. His coach steered him towards 200/400 because of his height and build. He then set the junior WR as a 200m sprinter and shifted into 100m as he got stronger and put on 18kg.

Yeah, If he followed the ketogenic diet that would put him in the 9.2's, right?.  

lol.


Ketogenic diets generally don't work very well for athletes with a high workload.

Can you imagine a whiteboy getting close to the record, what the reaction would be in the athletic community, if there are so many that believe Bolt is juiced to the gills. Jesus.

Past evidence of top sprinters suggest otherwise. Especially those who pack on large amounts of muscle and annihilate world records. Bolt is more likely to be doping than Christopher Lemaitre, but Lemaitre is probably not clean either.

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2011, 11:15:19 pm »
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Not even past the 4th line & he's already talking high.

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I became interested in the ketogenic diet two and one-half years ago when I used a modified form (called a cyclical ketogenic diet) to reach a level of leanness that was previously impossible using other diets.

I guess the ketogenic diet is the only diet you can get lean on.

Sillies. You can get lean on a diet of junk food/exercise as long as you take note of caloric intake.

way i see it, there are three options here:

1. you've still never read anything lyle has written. pretty much no one on the internet is more of an "it depends" guy than lyle, except maybe alan aragon.
2. you're borderline MR and/or illiterate.
3. you're trolling.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2011, 11:18:06 pm »
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way i see it, there are three options here:

1. you've still never read anything lyle has written. pretty much no one on the internet is more of an "it depends" guy than lyle, except maybe alan aragon.
2. you're borderline MR and/or illiterate.
3. you're trolling.

Options? I'm going with all three.

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2011, 12:34:58 am »
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He was running mid-low 10s at 16.

1. Could you please link me to that fact?.

2. When it comes to the 100m, running mid-low 10s is planets apart from 9.58.


Ketogenic diets generally don't work very well for athletes with a high workload.

At least your honest.

Past evidence of top sprinters suggest otherwise.

I can appreciate that.


Especially those who pack on large amounts of muscle and annihilate world records. Bolt is more likely to be doping than Christopher Lemaitre, but Lemaitre is probably not clean either.

How do you define packing on muscle?. I certainly wouldn't regard Bolt as hugely muscular, & as for Lemaitre, there is more muscle on a butchers pencil.

But the fact still remains, both guys haven't failed a drugs test. You certainly wouldn't be willing to stake your life/families life on the fact of both guys being juiced for the return of a $1million.

So what is the deal here?. Are you a speed coach? athlete? sprinter? etc that trains very hard but can't even come close to the elite? & your wandering what the deal is with those guys?.

1. you've still never read anything lyle has written. pretty much no one on the internet is more of an "it depends" guy than lyle, except maybe alan aragon.

You know I love a good conspiracy & a word commonly used is debunked.

Well, Usain Bolt has debunked the Ketogenic Diet.
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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2011, 12:39:11 am »
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ah, so borderline MR it is. sorry, man. that's a heavy cross to bear.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2011, 01:16:19 am »
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JC, as an example, for the average dude, its going to be a lot harder(require more dedication/planning etc) to get to 5% bodyfat than it did to get to 8% body fat..just in general terms, some guys have the genetics and metabolism to get cut up easier than others

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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2011, 05:24:29 am »
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Wow, i didn't expect so much BS from you $ick3nin.vend3tta!
You're right there with Raptor "I don't believe in nutrition - it's all pure marketing and for snobs"...


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Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2011, 11:52:00 am »
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Wow, i didn't expect so much BS from you $ick3nin.vend3tta!

You have to argue your case & put your points forward to where the BS is at?.
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