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Eating late at night
« on: July 23, 2011, 01:19:57 pm »
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So I hear quite often people (mostly girls) say they don't eat anything past 6 pm or whatever.  Does that really make a difference?  Let's say 2 completely identical people, eat the same food and calories in a day, however 1 finishes that food up by 6 pm, and the other finishes by 10 pm.  Assuming they both eat below maintenance calories, will the 6pm person lose weight faster than the other?  and WHY?
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2011, 01:56:48 pm »
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In my experience it doesn't make any difference.  In fact, when I drop weight I spend most of my time eating closer to bedtime lol.  I was also on intermittment fasting, and I'm pretty sure most of what I lost was fat.  Night time is  the best time to eat imo, because you will usually be more relaxed, which will not only help you enjoy your meal(s) better, but it might help with digestion since you're in "parasympathetic" mode.

To be perfectly honest I don't think it matters with the 2 identical people.  Assuming they both do the same activity, neither will lose more weight than the other.
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2011, 02:25:34 pm »
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You're probably going to want to eat carbs and "energy giving foods" before an activity requiring energy though. It doesn't make too much sense to eat carbs and then go to sleep. They'd most probably go in and deposit as fat. Instead, if you eat them before playing ball, running, gym etc they should be used as energy for those activities. Not sure if that's the case though.
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 05:59:19 pm »
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2011, 06:04:33 pm »
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Yeah bro!

The thing is - I don't know how that energy is going to be used in terms of time.

That's why I wonder why Andrew eats carbs today for tomorrow. How do you know what you eat today is going to be available for you as energy tomorrow? How can you know they're not going to be converted to fat by then, or that their energy value was lost during the night and next of the day up until the athletic event and so on and so forth.
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 09:52:00 pm »
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http://jasonferruggia.com/premium/articles/The_Renegade_Diet_V2.pdf

he dicusses it in this pamphlet. I think it is is pretty nice layout for the average adult man with a job and trains on the side.
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 09:58:50 pm »
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sorry forgot that you need to login to read it. let me just copy and paste part of it.,

Quote from: Ferruggia on July 23, 2011, 09:52:00 pm

Quote from: Ferruggia on July 23, 2011, 09:52:00 pm





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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2011, 08:06:13 am »
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That excerpt is somewhat true but not always. I eat carbs whenever I want. When I was accustomed to IF, I noticed if I ate carbs during he day I would fall asleep. I stopped IFing and now I eat a ton of carbs in the morning and have more energy. So it's quite complicated.

Berkhan (leangains.blogspot.com) had a recent article with research showing that people who eat the most carbs before bed lose the most weight. FOr myself this is true most of the time. But I eat carbs before bed probably yes because I am relaxed and ready to really digest everything.
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2011, 10:27:53 am »
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Quote from: Ineedtodunk on July 23, 2011, 01:19:57 pm
So I hear quite often people (mostly girls)

I guess you got your answer here ^^^
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2011, 01:53:38 pm »
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Actually I just ate a shitload of carbs and fell asleep. Maybe because I only slept for 5 hours so my body wanted me to stuff myself to get the next 3. I've tried dieting like this before snakcing throughout the day and it's basically like an extended IF
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"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2011, 09:47:15 pm »
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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 12:26:13 am »
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I guess we'll get into this discussion again.


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"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: Eating late at night
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 05:01:06 pm »
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The only meal where timing is really important is your postworkout nutrition.  Beyond that it's not very important when you eat.  The don't eat late at night myth got started because epidemiological studies showed that people who ate late at night were much more likely to be obese.  However, it didn't take into account that people who eat late at night are more often making really poor food choices.   If you eat the majority of your carbs before bed then you will fill up your glycogen stores quite well for performance the next day.  Also you will provide a lot of glucose for your brain during the night which will help with recovery.  Often this is preferred because if one wants to perform a strenuous task in the morning it's best not eat much upon waking because digestion may compromise the workout. 
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