also, my dad doesn't like rap but he's definitely impressed with good rap/rappers. due to his music background, he notices skill that most people don't, that I can't even remember to mention here lol. i'm talking about rap itself though, not necessarily the beats. he doesn't care about the beats much, he's honing in on the actual rap & how they string words/verses together & rap to the beat with precision in ways that can get pretty complex. some rap beats are really solid too though, alot going on there, and even more legit from a "music purist" point of view when it's a live band.
also, he comes from a jazz background. his dad thought jazz wasn't music.. his dad was one of those "classical folks" (his generation).
i def get annoyed when people add their bias to it.. you don't have to like it, but you really have to acknowledge what it is, IMHO.
so i can see how you (LBSS) would get annoyed at that kind of "argument". lol.