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hardrock123

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New and after advice
« on: April 10, 2011, 06:09:40 pm »
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Hey. Another new person. From UK. Just started playing basketball last month. I'm 23 so bit late to the game but enjoying it. Been going to a game night once a week with a friend, and also a training night. Started the gym again on Friday (went previously in attempt to put on some weight a but lacked solid goals so ended up stopping), doing the 'Introductory block' found on here. Really enjoyed the first workout, legs were killing afterwards!

Being new to training and the game I'm open to any tips anyone can give me. I've been trying to practice on my own twice to three times a week and trying to do something structured that looks like this...

warmup shooting:
close shots, front and sides, 10 makes each

dribbles:
figure-of-8,
spider ball,
letters; M, W, L,

(thinking of changing the above to taylor hortons dribbling drill I found on here)

jump for rim layup from stationary, 3x5 times each side
sprint in jump-high layups/put ins, 10 makes each side

left hand dribbling forwards/backwards covering court, 3 times
moves on two obstacles: crossover/behind back to layup, 5 makes each side (using left hand as well)
moves on two obstacles: crossover/through legs to layup, 5 makes each side

(what kind of crossover should I be practicing? At the moment I'm bouncing dribbling the ball up to the first obstacle, crossing the ball into the opposite hand as if to go that way then back into the initial dribbling hand and moving to next obstacle then either putting it behind my back or through legs, is something like this OK/worth while practicing?)

moves on two obstacles: crossover/behind back to jump shot, 5 makes each side (still practicing left hand dribbling)
moves on two obstacles: crossover/through legs to jump shot, 5 makes each side

(these shots take the longest, I miss a lot which makes me think I should focus on stationary shooting more before moving onto this?)

fake shot, dribble right, jump shot, 5 makes
fake shot, dribble left, jump shot, 5 makes

jump shots from baseline (both sides), freethrow, then in between base line and freethrow (both sides) for 5 makes each

17s sprint with ball, 1-2
suicides sprint with ball, 1-2

Then some more shots If I'm not exhausted...

Am I off the mark with what I'm practising here? Can anyone recommend things I should be concentrating on as a beginner? I have limited time to practice so I need to keep it quite structured. The stuff I got here is from looking on youtube etc. but I couldn't find a routine already made up so had to put my own one together, and obviously don't know too much!

Sorry to start off with so many questions!

Cheers for any help.
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Re: New and after advice
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 11:05:10 pm »
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'Sup, dude.

Might help if you post up a video of yourself if you're not feeling shy. That way we can see exactly what level you're at in order to help you.

Something that might help with your shots would be to establish your form and keep that form. This is important, because it's what should come automatic when you start playing games. It should flow smooth and you should never think about it too hard. For example, a textbook jumpshot's power comes from the legs and the follow through from the elbow flicks out smoothly. I always practice my form before any jumpshot session by banking the shot near the rim or aiming for a soft placement in the net. (When I mean near the rim, probably just outside the low post or a little inside the paint works well.)

I move to free throws after that and then choose a couple of spots on the court to practice. 50 to 100 shots at each spot is decent practice.

You ought to master those mid-range shots before moving on to the three-point.

For dribbling... you can just dribble a lot. Keep it low, keep it crisp, and never do a move that'll have you stuck. Every move should have the ability to flow into another move into another move. For example, I could do a crossover to the right hand, then a behind the back into a left hand spin pivot into a step back move into a low dribble to avoid the imaginary hands of the defender, etc.. Basketball is fluid and never stagnant.
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Re: New and after advice
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 01:18:42 pm »
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Hey, thanks for the feedback.

I've been practicing my shot by playing games of 21 from free-throw, both elbows, both sides of baseline, then doing the same thing from the 3 point (or in a bit from the 3 point depending on how it goes), and also if I can get the rebound before the ball bounces then get a layup I get 1 point - but over half the points have to be scored from jump-shots. I think it's been helping, shot definitely seems more consistent, even after doing it only a few times. But then I guess any kind of consistent practice will help. I've been trying to concentrate on my form like you said and that has definitely helped as well; if the form feels good the shot usually goes in which is nice.

With the dribbling; is there any point in practicing static dribbling moves? Maybe just a few to warm up? Do they actually help your game improve? I know they're a big thing on youtube... :P

Anyway, I'll keep playing as much as possible and hopefully improve. Thanks again for the reply :)
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Re: New and after advice
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 05:35:24 am »
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When I was a kid I used to just practice moves in the park. Stuff like that definitely helps your handle. I would practice what you don't feel comfortable with (off hand, spins) and try to get as many practical moves as you can into your arsenal. You oughta aim for being able to pull off any move while closing your eyes. It's up to you to go through drills. Do them as fast and smoothly as you can in order to get the most benefit out of it.

Hope that helps.
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Re: New and after advice
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 03:23:59 pm »
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where abouts in the uk are you from?
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Re: New and after advice
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 09:03:35 am »
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Quote from: creativelyric on April 17, 2011, 05:35:24 am
When I was a kid I used to just practice moves in the park. Stuff like that definitely helps your handle. I would practice what you don't feel comfortable with (off hand, spins) and try to get as many practical moves as you can into your arsenal. You oughta aim for being able to pull off any move while closing your eyes. It's up to you to go through drills. Do them as fast and smoothly as you can in order to get the most benefit out of it.

Hope that helps.

Yeah that does help, thanks. Think I will stick to a few basic moves and get them down really well (with eyes shut, like you said), rather than trying anything to fancy.

Quote from: gukl on April 17, 2011, 03:23:59 pm
where abouts in the uk are you from?

I'm from the South West - Devon originally, but studying in Cornwall at the moment.
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