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I mean....what is there to say scooby? If you're going to do a 90min plyometric session with (I'm estimating) 100+ ground contacts on concrete, you're gonna have a bad time. It's not rocket science. Of course you need to rest. You might be getting stress fractures which are an absolute bitch to deal with. The only serious injury I got as a junior was a stress fracture in my left toe, and it took several months to heal because I kept training on it. Of course, if your toe isn't coming up with the rest it could be a tendon problem, which, again, is an absolute nightmare. Either way, gotta stop with the plyos, no other option IMO.

Goddamn it man, we all want to see you slam it but you're your own worst enemy sometimes. You need to post regularly again so people can catch your fuckups before they get too bad.

I couldn't imagine doing 90 minutes of plyometric activity especially on concrete   


I would definitely recommend stopping that ASAP, if not I guarantee those injuries will get worse and even to the point of "sparking" more futuristic problems for yourself. I would take time off to heal and during that time try to find a better surface to train on, but regardless when it comes to the CNS and training to get better responses from it I believe a 90 minute session of plyo's is overkill. maybe that's just me though lol!

I mean....what is there to say scooby? If you're going to do a 90min plyometric session with (I'm estimating) 100+ ground contacts on concrete, you're gonna have a bad time. It's not rocket science. Of course you need to rest. You might be getting stress fractures which are an absolute bitch to deal with. The only serious injury I got as a junior was a stress fracture in my left toe, and it took several months to heal because I kept training on it. Of course, if your toe isn't coming up with the rest it could be a tendon problem, which, again, is an absolute nightmare. Either way, gotta stop with the plyos, no other option IMO.

Goddamn it man, we all want to see you slam it but you're your own worst enemy sometimes. You need to post regularly again so people can catch your fuckups before they get too bad.

that is correct.

He took too long of a rest, guys

Seriously scooby... how many posts of good advice have you received over the YEARS and decided to completely ignore? You usually say "yeah, OK, I know" etc, and then prove the complete ignorance of said advice just a few hours (?) later by posting yet another vert guru saying this and that, and you saying you tried it and it got you injured.

I've seriously given up on you, there's no way you'll ever progress.

got the same "hurting bones in the balls of my feet" feeling after doing repetitive 36-40" altitude landings on gym hard wood flooring. to do it on concrete is just asking for an injury.

nah scooby HAS progressed, raptor, you know that.

still, scooby, acole told you what the problem is. your volume is too high. stop doing so many ground contacts on concrete. it's not about rest periods. and actually, rest for a little bit, stay off your foot. i have a hard time with this, too. raptor is telling me in my thread to dial it back to active recovery today and i want to scream, but i think he's right.

Thanks for the support LBSS,  And I know where Raptor is coming from, he had seen me on this forum for many years... I understand how come he is frustrated at me... as I am frustrated about my progress also... But i always trying to learn and listen to suggestion with an open mind.  I was so close at my peak much over the rim very possible to dunk 2 months ago before I changed my job.... but now I am going backward....

Too many contacts for concrete as mentioned already. I'm surprised no one's asked yet but, what type/style of shoes are you doing this in? How old are the shoes? Condition of the insole and outsole?

I used a 50% worn out addidas Rose TEAM Usa sneaker. Not the best cushion available.  And I some time play like 30 min basketball post plyo...


If i know i wont be balling after,
I wear addidas Boost runner.  Suppose give u rebounce... but i am not sure the rebounce is a good thing or bad thing interms of plyometric... (rebounce give u joint pain?)



I also have Leborn J X with full length Airmax... that should provide batter cushion but it is more heavy... and probably not good to Test vert with due to too much cushion.


I should and will alter the routine to limit jump/ground contact... like you guys suggest...
but finding a place with nice flooring will be tough.... We don have grass land where I live... even if there are, you are not permitted to STEP on it...

Finding a track with Red dirt or rubber flooring to do plyo is possible.... but there will be nothing for me to Jump off from....

thinking......