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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2011, 01:31:36 pm »
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No, not really. One of the best things you can do for your jumping is to jump maximally all the time when you play... you start to "expect" jumping maximally and becomes more or less 2nd nature. At least, I think so. Because I'm too lazy to do it.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2011, 01:46:07 pm »
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No, not really. One of the best things you can do for your jumping is to jump maximally all the time when you play... you start to "expect" jumping maximally and becomes more or less 2nd nature. At least, I think so. Because I'm too lazy to do it.

We are not saying not to jump maximally, just pick and choose the times, and pay attention to where you are when you do, where you will land.  Youre an idiot if you are playing a lot of basketball and dont acknowledge the risk of coming down on someones foot when jumping in GAME SITUATIONS, no matter how healthy and strong your ankles are, you come down on someones foot from a high enough level and its game over for you.  Bye bye training gains that you worked so hard for, bye bye season, and sometimes this can cost you your spot on the team.

 Test your ingenious theory out, go play 3-4 hours a day of competitive basketball, GO FUCKING NUTS jumping, as soon as you see a crowd under the rim, take off from outside the paint and just launch yourself into the lane.  Dont worry about where you land because you have good structure and mobility of the ankles.  When a shot goes up, JUMP MAXIMALLY STRAIGHT UP IN THE AIR, stand as close as possible to all the others standing in the lane when you do it, again, dont worry about where you land due to your advanced ankle structure/mobility.  Come back to this thread in a month or so and report how it went.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2011, 01:55:43 pm »
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People forgot the 82 games grind the player went through, if they don't tape their ankle and with the style the play almost every other day, chances of they wear out their ankle ligaments is pretty high.  Most of them wear out their knee instead though.

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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2011, 03:34:28 pm »
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No, not really. One of the best things you can do for your jumping is to jump maximally all the time when you play... you start to "expect" jumping maximally and becomes more or less 2nd nature. At least, I think so. Because I'm too lazy to do it.

We are not saying not to jump maximally, just pick and choose the times, and pay attention to where you are when you do, where you will land.  Youre an idiot if you are playing a lot of basketball and dont acknowledge the risk of coming down on someones foot when jumping in GAME SITUATIONS, no matter how healthy and strong your ankles are, you come down on someones foot from a high enough level and its game over for you.  Bye bye training gains that you worked so hard for, bye bye season, and sometimes this can cost you your spot on the team.

 Test your ingenious theory out, go play 3-4 hours a day of competitive basketball, GO FUCKING NUTS jumping, as soon as you see a crowd under the rim, take off from outside the paint and just launch yourself into the lane.  Dont worry about where you land because you have good structure and mobility of the ankles.  When a shot goes up, JUMP MAXIMALLY STRAIGHT UP IN THE AIR, stand as close as possible to all the others standing in the lane when you do it, again, dont worry about where you land due to your advanced ankle structure/mobility.  Come back to this thread in a month or so and report how it went.

Haha, sorry, but can't do. Heck, I look at the ground when I jump alone on the court, let alone in traffic. Hence I turn into a jumpshooter when I play ball, and I think that's a smart thing to do.

There are crazy people that penetrate a lot, jump a lot, get injured a lot, and then complain about their injuries.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2011, 03:35:30 pm »
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People forgot the 82 games grind the player went through, if they don't tape their ankle and with the style the play almost every other day, chances of they wear out their ankle ligaments is pretty high.  Most of them wear out their knee instead though.

Maybe they have less developed calves and lower leg musculature than quads, and therefore feel their ankles more unstable than the knees, and therefore act in taping the ankles.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2011, 09:42:41 am »
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Also, Raptor, you can't jump maximally over and over throughout a game, by definition. As soon as you start getting tired, you are not jumping maximally anymore.

And go watch an NBA game, those guys don't jump "maximally" as often as you think. Most of the time it's little hops, submax jumps for rebounds or layups or jump shots, whatever. The only time they jump max effort -- as distinct from maximal jumping, which requires lots of rest -- is on hard dunks (and big players don't even need to jump ME for that) and sometimes on rebounds in traffic.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2011, 11:56:23 am »
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Yeah, I know. I was just making a point about how we're usually so lazy that we never jump maximally in a game ONCE.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2011, 10:29:31 pm »
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Hence I turn into a jumpshooter when I play ball, and I think that's a smart thing to do.

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Whenever I'm in Europe I NEVER drive into the lane. Hell no, not outdoors, with 35 year old men pounding me because I'm "American" and much more athletic than those idiots. And we're playing on concrete with some small potholes. Not to mention, nobody realizes they're not playing tight D at all because there's no 3 point line on this court and they sag off anywhere more than 15ft from the basket if you're on the sides of the court (where it's harder for the defender to judge distance since he's not near the paint and he is facing away from the basket anyway). So I'll just make them pay anyway with my jumpshot. I'm a jumpshooter anyway.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2011, 11:57:07 pm »
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Hence I turn into a jumpshooter when I play ball, and I think that's a smart thing to do.

+ +9,000

Whenever I'm in Europe I NEVER drive into the lane. Hell no, not outdoors, with 35 year old men pounding me because I'm "American" and much more athletic than those idiots. And we're playing on concrete with some small potholes. Not to mention, nobody realizes they're not playing tight D at all because there's no 3 point line on this court and they sag off anywhere more than 15ft from the basket if you're on the sides of the court (where it's harder for the defender to judge distance since he's not near the paint and he is facing away from the basket anyway). So I'll just make them pay anyway with my jumpshot. I'm a jumpshooter anyway.

LOL are you serious about those European ballers?  I gotta take note, as I'm going to England in the summer.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2011, 03:11:39 am »
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Hence I turn into a jumpshooter when I play ball, and I think that's a smart thing to do.

+ +9,000

Whenever I'm in Europe I NEVER drive into the lane. Hell no, not outdoors, with 35 year old men pounding me because I'm "American" and much more athletic than those idiots. And we're playing on concrete with some small potholes. Not to mention, nobody realizes they're not playing tight D at all because there's no 3 point line on this court and they sag off anywhere more than 15ft from the basket if you're on the sides of the court (where it's harder for the defender to judge distance since he's not near the paint and he is facing away from the basket anyway). So I'll just make them pay anyway with my jumpshot. I'm a jumpshooter anyway.

LOL are you serious about those European ballers?  I gotta take note, as I'm going to England in the summer.

Of course he is. So, what, it's different in the USA? Here everybody is obsessed with "defense" (read - fouling). If you're fat (and most are) and just lurk 1 meter around the paint and foul everybody, you're a great "baller". Go figure.
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 05:27:06 pm »
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Not sure how it is everywhere in Europe, but in Macedonia it's like that. They're prejudiced against me because I live in America, and because I'm much more athletic and skilled than them. So when I drive into the lane, they really use force against me and foul A LOT. What sucks is that if you call foul, there's no basket if it goes in. At least where I play at (in NYC), the basket counts if you're playing full court (only sometimes on half court, depends who's playing against you lol. Not outdoors though. I found a nice, controlled gym where there's a sign-up sheet for full-court games. Everything is fair and controlled, and no arguing about who plays next and w/e, so that's why we have this and 1 rule too keep lazy defenders from fouling and hurting you every time).

Then there are those tall fat men who stay a couple of feet from the basket. So tough to get rebounds on them. Couple that with with... NO TAKEBACKS... and a low rim (like 9'6" where I'm at) and they are all-stars. You just can't beat them. I'm a jumpshooter, I can make 4 shots in a row, but if I miss one, defense gets the rebound and goes right up with it for a point and you don't have possession anymore. Makes it tougher to be a shooter.

There are no "checks" either, but this is a rule I like. These are the Macedonian rules:

1. If you score, you must take the ball out from anywhere along the baseline. There's no wait for a check. Your team needs 2 passes before you're allowed to shoot (the throw in from the baseline counts as a pass). Defense is allowed to intercept the pass in (exception: on the very first possession of the game when the score is 0-0, the first pass in cannot be intercepted).

2. If you are fouled, you take the ball out from the sideline straight out from the spot you were fouled. No wait for a check again. You take the ball out from here. Defense is allowed to intercept that throw in. Also, you may shoot as soon as the ball is in play (don't need to wait for a 2nd pass).

^^ Those 2 rules make for some awesome fast-paced basketball though :). Well, so does the no takeback rule, but I hate that rule. Makes it unworthy to settle for jumpshots, but it's too dangerous to drive in so it just overall sucks for me.

It's better at simulating a full-court game because there are no checks in full court so you don't have to wait for the defense to pay attention, you just go. However, to keep it from getting crazy fast, there's that 2 pass rule after a shot (akin to eliminating cherry-picking in a full court game).
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2011, 07:10:12 pm »
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So what you're actually trying to say is "Get fat, play "ball" and be happy. You're going to be a superstar". I think I've heard this somewhere else before...
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Re: Ankle taping in the NBA
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2011, 07:04:19 am »
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did oliver miller say it?