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What's up with that? You see everybody with their ankles taped several times in the NBA... wtf? I think that puts the knee to an even more disadvantageous position than just wearing high cut shoes alone. If you combine them both, the knee has to really compensate for the lack of ankle mobility.

Quote from: Raptor on April 02, 2011, 06:52:58 pm

What's up with that? You see everybody with their ankles taped several times in the NBA... wtf? I think that puts the knee to an even more disadvantageous position than just wearing high cut shoes alone. If you combine them both, the knee has to really compensate for the lack of ankle mobility.

why do you care?

it's a forum. chill mully 

Quote from: BMully on April 02, 2011, 07:17:45 pm

Quote from: Raptor on April 02, 2011, 06:52:58 pm

What's up with that? You see everybody with their ankles taped several times in the NBA... wtf? I think that puts the knee to an even more disadvantageous position than just wearing high cut shoes alone. If you combine them both, the knee has to really compensate for the lack of ankle mobility.

why do you care?

Because you can learn from this and apply to yourself. Why do you care about commenting about something you don't care?

I'm trying to figure out why you would care what they do. They already promote squatflex and jumpsoles.

What's up with that? You see everybody with their ankles taped several times in the NBA... wtf? I think that puts the knee to an even more disadvantageous position than just wearing high cut shoes alone. If you combine them both, the knee has to really compensate for the lack of ankle mobility.

 Its definitely overdone in many cases, but in other cases its very necessary too, lots of bad ankle issues that can easily be re injured.  The immobilization of the ankle joint will definitely affect the knee joint and the hip joint, just like the immobilization of the knee joint will affect the hip joint and knee joint, etc., and a lot of athletes tape now due to it being more of a "habit" or a crutch, and would likely be better served by removing some of the joint restrictive gear (tape and braces), working on strengthening the ankle and surrounding structures and solid positioning/mobility.  BUT, Ive seen ankle injuries that were so recurring, even a hard practice without taping would end in at least a minor sprain if not worse, and not only from something major like coming down on a foot, cutting, stopping, etc, can turn over an ankle that has been damaged extensively previously if it doesnt have some type of protection. 

Weird... it's probably a structural thing in these situations (like having pronated feet and stuff like that) that "promotes" injuries. Otherwise, these people must have a really weak lower leg musculature.

Doesn't sound too weird to me.
Here's another perspectice , the financial one:
Those guys play 80 games per season , in an inhuman athletic tempo. 220+lb men doing endless ME jumps and then landings , on foots or not...  ankle injury is very probable. I also think they are overdoing it with the tapes, BUT, a bad ankle injury ( that would cause a couple of months off ) would affect your 'stocks' in the game , we are talking about millions.
To contradict myself , a player could chose to raise his stocks by playing better with an untaped ankle. But if i had to choose , i would also go with the safe side and tape the ankles!

Quote from: Raptor on April 03, 2011, 05:52:15 am

Weird... it's probably a structural thing in these situations (like having pronated feet and stuff like that) that "promotes" injuries. Otherwise, these people must have a really weak lower leg musculature.

Doesn't sound too weird to me.
Here's another perspectice , the financial one:
Those guys play 80 games per season , in an inhuman athletic tempo. 220+lb men doing endless ME jumps and then landings , on foots or not...  ankle injury is very probable. I also think they are overdoing it with the tapes, BUT, a bad ankle injury ( that would cause a couple of months off ) would affect your 'stocks' in the game , we are talking about millions.
To contradict myself , a player could chose to raise his stocks by playing better with an untaped ankle. But if i had to choose , i would also go with the safe side and tape the ankles!

 +1, good post.  fwiw, the healthiest ankles in the world cant withstand coming down 40 inches and landing on someones foot, having the tibia touch the floor while youre standing on the blade edge of the foot.  That is an EXTREMELY common injury in competitive basketball, and once it happens, especially multiple times, the ankle will usually turn over easier, even during cutting/change of direction movements that may not have previously bothered it.  Its better safe than sorry for sure.



FWIW, Ill share something that helped me out a lot later in my basketball career.  In lighter practices and scrimmages you can learn to pick and choose when you jump in traffic, and more importantly, dont land right where you jumped if you dont have to.  I learned this way too late in my career or I couldve saved myself several bad ankle injuries from coming down on peoples feet around the rim, but once you start practicing it and get used to it, your chance of injury gets less and less.  Learn to jump quickly in traffic, high when you need to but always at angles or with momentum carrying you somewhere safe, the more you practice the more aware you become of it, and the less likely you are to come down on someones foot and ruin half to all of your season.

FWIW, Ill share something that helped me out a lot later in my basketball career.  In lighter practices and scrimmages you can learn to pick and choose when you jump in traffic, and more importantly, dont land right where you jumped if you dont have to.  I learned this way too late in my career or I couldve saved myself several bad ankle injuries from coming down on peoples feet around the rim, but once you start practicing it and get used to it, your chance of injury gets less and less.  Learn to jump quickly in traffic, high when you need to but always at angles or with momentum carrying you somewhere safe, the more you practice the more aware you become of it, and the less likely you are to come down on someones foot and ruin half to all of your season.

+1 to this! As my training made me jump higher , i wanted to ME on any jump. Its stupid... you must somehow learn to jump only as much as you need.
If you boxed your oponent out , no reason to sky the defensive rebound , keep boxing out and pick the ball from the ground.
If you see your teammate at the same situation , no need to go there and grab the reb in the sky. Let the ball go down and your teamate pick it.
You are outside , a teamate shoots... no need to cut and jump for the offensive rebound , there will be 6-8 people , 12-16 foots in the paint waiting for you to land on them.
And so many similar situations...
But then again , when it's competition you forget it all and go 110%. You just have to learn to go smarter , as smart as you can anyway.

So Nightfly is smart for jumping 8 inches on his rebound attempts? And being outrebounded at the same time?

- rebowndz are GUD

- jumpin hi is GUD

-if your ankle is sprained or broked u cant jump hi or at all

-pick time 2 jump hi iz > jump hi when not need 2

-reboundeng not about jumping hi  much as  is positioning (see also "where you *get* when under a goal)

-jump at angleezz when u kan


.....does that make better sense to you raptor?