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GALLERIES: High Jumpers
« on: February 23, 2010, 03:31:57 pm »
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SLRVJ Plant: Stefan Holm vs. Donald Thomas.


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Holm: High Jump Plant


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High Jump Plant: Holm (Closeup)



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High Jump: Stefan Holm Plant (closeup #2)



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High Jump Plant: Donald Thomas


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Re: GALLERIES: High Jumpers
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 01:29:30 am »
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holy shit that would tear anybody else's ankle in half, makes you think about how strong you got better get those ankles if you want to jump high, or be able to cut fast and change directions

what kind of stuff do you do for the ankles adarq?

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Re: GALLERIES: High Jumpers
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 01:42:02 am »
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holy shit that would tear anybody else's ankle in half, makes you think about how strong you got better get those ankles if you want to jump high, or be able to cut fast and change directions

yup, if your ankles break down, then everything will break down. one thing you'll notice about all of these jumper/sprinter galleries, is that they all have insane ankles, which could be completely a matter of long achilles tendons OR other factors such as strength.

the most important things these hj'rs are doing, is jamming their leg stiff.. it's almost like a piece of bamboo, jamming stiff into the ground, bending under the force you jam it, and then rebounding reflexively. That "stiff leg plant" is hardcore.

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what kind of stuff do you do for the ankles adarq?

for double leg jumpers, the best stuff is:
- single/double leg bounds (non weighted & eventually utilizing weighted variations)
- stiff leg ankle hops (non weighted & eventually utilizing weighted variations)
- lateral barrier jumps
- rfi line hops (non weighted & eventually utilizing weighted variations)
- sprints
- depth jumps
- heavy calf raises

for single leg jumps it's pretty similar, but you have to take care with some of the double leg stuff depending on what phase you're in.

After detraining my vert for so long, i'm getting back into it. If my old hamstring tendon injury holds up then we'll see what happens, but the plan for now, is to target specifically the ankles. Limit all lifts to them, lots of sprinting/reactive movements etc. I want to see what my jumping will look like, focusing entirely on the ankles.

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Re: GALLERIES: High Jumpers
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 06:59:35 am »
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only just saw this thread, their ankles are taking in soooooooooooo much energy!
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Re: GALLERIES: High Jumpers
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 07:33:36 am »
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only just saw this thread, their ankles are taking in soooooooooooo much energy!

yup, holm especially.. ridiculous slow motion footage.

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Re: GALLERIES: High Jumpers
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 04:36:26 am »
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I think they key is calf strength here. And it's a bit counter-intuitive since when we think "strength" we expect that muscle to generate concentric power to propel us, but here - strength is needed so that the muscle contracts isometrically strong and allows the tendon to deform and provide the power.

Like Kelly said in the past, the calves themselves don't do too much actively (maybe give you 8 inches of your total vert if you have like a 32 inch vert). But isometrically, and totally out of concentric talk, they do a lot to make you use your tendons.
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All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: GALLERIES: High Jumpers
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 04:38:43 pm »
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One more thing: look at Holm's right leg as he swings it (his position) and look at Thomas'. Holm has his right leg parallel, sideways, to his left, while Thomas has his right leg a little more backwards, which means he puts more strength into the jump and less tendon, in my opinion, since that will increase the amortization phase because the right leg swing will be longer.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps