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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 10:55:23 pm »
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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 10:56:28 pm »
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I got Rigo in 12 .. but i'm not confident about it.

rigo in 12 is a risky pick because he's just not as active as Loma .. but i'm basing my pick on him shutting Loma down. His counter punching & defense should slow Loma down for the first time in his career.. based on that, I pick Rigo.

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 12:23:23 pm »
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Rigondeaux is very good and calculated, while you have lomachenko who is dynamic throwing the combos. Very interesting fight.

One thing that makes me doubt rigondeaux is will he able to carry his strength and power to the new weight. Rigondeaux is moving up a weight to fight loma so wouldn't reduce his chances. I also love lomachenko besides the circus acts from time to time.

I pick lomachenko UD12 cos he can go in and out. But it's hard to pick it's literally #1 vs #2
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
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Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 03:31:19 pm »
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Rigondeaux is very good and calculated, while you have lomachenko who is dynamic throwing the combos. Very interesting fight.

One thing that makes me doubt rigondeaux is will he able to carry his strength and power to the new weight. Rigondeaux is moving up a weight to fight loma so wouldn't reduce his chances. I also love lomachenko besides the circus acts from time to time.

I pick lomachenko UD12 cos he can go in and out. But it's hard to pick it's literally #1 vs #2

yup the weight aspect of it definitely has me skeptical for Rigo, but I think his style is one in which weight advantages aren't so much of an advantage, since he's such an incredible defender + counter puncher.

Deep down I also want to see Loma "frozen". I want to see how he responds when he gets frozen, like how Floyd freezes everyone who fights him, I think Rigo can do something similar to Loma. It's at that point where Loma's weight advantage can definitely help though, just like how Maidana's weight advantage in the first fight helped him a ton vs Floyd, but Maidana is a pure slugger so I think that actually helps in making a fight very dirty and giving yourself more of a chance on the cards.

The big test to me, is to see how Loma reacts to being popped with laser sharp counters and also not being able to hit Rigo when he normally connects with his opponents. If Loma can dispose of Rigo, i'll be incredibly impressed. One thing I know though, is Loma gets frustrated when his opponent "hides" from him. Rigo is going to hide, and attack, repeat for 12. So will Loma's frustrations manifest again in a fight like this? I definitely think so.. and I think that'll end up hurting him.

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 06:29:06 pm »
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Rigondeaux hitting the mitts

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFHGXNyE8_8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFHGXNyE8_8</a>

Look at the sharp laser concentration
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPbp6jVFfNM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPbp6jVFfNM</a>

Lomachenko - don't see much hitting the mitts.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRvaY4_OsgI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRvaY4_OsgI</a>

« Last Edit: December 06, 2017, 06:30:38 pm by seifullaah73 »
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 12:12:09 am »
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thanks for the vids! man rigo is looking SHARP. damn................................................

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 11:46:43 am »
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good quote from my boxer friend:

11:42 < cubanpaw> rigo wont beat loma even if he beats loma unfortunately

some truth to that perhaps.. Loma is the money man. Rigo needs to beat Loma decisively.

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2017, 02:35:50 pm »
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Rigo v Loma stare down was epic. That's how you do a stare down, no talking/yapping/smiling, just surgical.

Rigo looks pretty thick.. everyone keeps talking about his weight but, he always looks massive at his weight.

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2017, 02:40:31 pm »
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https://theundefeated.com/features/boxer-guillermo-rigondeaux-on-cuba-vasyl-lomachenko-and-boring-label/

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I’m not out there to waste energy. I’m out there to punch you in the face. That way it hurts every time.”

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“I also think the biggest issue we have as Latinos in boxing is that we talk poorly about each other. American-born fighters may put on the show in the prefight, but there is a real respect there. American-born fighters have always been very respectful and even supportive of me. The Latino fighters who aren’t Cuban? They’re like, ‘Oh, that guy can go to hell.’ The Mexican fighters hate the Cuban fighters. They keep coming at you in the ring to show how brave they are. You know, Mexican-style. That’s why I’ve knocked all their heads off.

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2017, 12:34:59 pm »
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the stare down

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUtxctSVMHo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUtxctSVMHo</a>

btw this fight is on ESPN (tonight) if any1 is wondering.

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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2017, 12:39:29 pm »
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Re: Lomachenko vs Rigondeux
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2017, 01:18:44 pm »
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Damn nice shot.

I can't watch it on TV as it's on american channel espn. So will have to watch it another way. Sky Sports will only be showing salido vs roman fight.  :uhhhfacepalm:
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/