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Andre ward vs kovalev
« on: November 22, 2016, 04:19:10 pm »
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How is there not a thread for this fight, it was such an awesome fight that it has to be done.

WOW  :wowthatwasnutswtf: :headbang: Have you ever watched a technical sports and marvel at the technicality and mind tactics involved that you realzie that its not just a basic sport but their mentality to win puts it at another level, well this was the same. Both boxers fighting tough and using tactics and strategy that when I see this, I see that its not only just hitting the other person with the gloves using different punches, but they used position, feet placement, traps, feints and some other things that makes me realize that the amount of a mental game this is as it is a physical fight that separates the pros from the amatuers just like in chess you have tactics and then you have super mental strategies that is beyond your comprehension. I actually believe they both tried their 100% best both mentally and physically and they both had the right game plan, but kovalev probably a bit better as ward had occasions of being open and when he extends his hand that leaves him open for kovalev to come in and there were numerous times kovalev landed his jab to the head of ward or its beyond my comprehension.

So, kovalev started as the dynamic fighter, he had excellent reflex, he can counter and his jabs are tough, and the knockout in the second round, that showed his speed in getting to the punch first, kovalev was an excellent counter puncher, power puncher and good jabber but he lacked the body punch which andre ward drilled him with. Later on you could see ward not getting luck with distance and has to go in and rough him up and land the body punches, later andre wards punches were landing, there were the occasional power jabs from kovalev but andre ward was making his way back as kovalev tired and this is the excellence of ward, in his range and power and reflex and long term strategy. But they both were like bull fighting, especially when close, kovalev had the tendency to hold wards head down or wrap him up. As the rounds grew ward managing to make alot of shots to the head as well as kovalev having the occasional counter to the head.

When it came to the score cards, I had it close, I had a gut feeling they would give it to kovalev because of his counters and hard jabs but it was a close score for me, it could have been a draw but when andre ward won, I was happy for him to have won such a big fight, even though kovalev felt he won, which I would neither disagree or agree but felt that since it was so close it was up to the judges and they scored in favour of andreward, and the score card showed all three judges had it 114-113 to ward and gave last round to ward. I was amazed at unofficial score card that he was giving away rounds to kovalev.

But I still feel this was one of the best technical, power boxing match and they both really deserved to be the top of the game.

BUT ANDRE WARD WON, YES!!!  :headbang:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyPr3G125iQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyPr3G125iQ</a>

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Re: Andre ward vs kovalev
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 05:15:21 pm »
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Some commentary by paulie, showing the technicality involved in this fight.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZX0dKyastQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZX0dKyastQ</a>
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
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Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

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Re: Andre ward vs kovalev
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2016, 12:52:13 pm »
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thanks for the recap! ya I didn't see it yet, though I looked up the result. Probably going to watch it on Saturday on HBO.

I heard it could have gone either way. I thought Kovalev was going to win a close decision. I figured Kovalev's activity over the years vs Ward's lack of activity, would give him an edge in a 12 round fight. Ward is just THAT GOOD. Really slick defensive fighters are hard to beat.

That Malignaggi video was good.

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Re: Andre ward vs kovalev
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2016, 04:36:44 pm »
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thanks for the recap! ya I didn't see it yet, though I looked up the result. Probably going to watch it on Saturday on HBO.

I heard it could have gone either way. I thought Kovalev was going to win a close decision. I figured Kovalev's activity over the years vs Ward's lack of activity, would give him an edge in a 12 round fight. Ward is just THAT GOOD. Really slick defensive fighters are hard to beat.

That Malignaggi video was good.

Yep it was that close, that if kovalev had won then I would have supported that decision just like andre ward won, I supported that decision, it was very close and what else would you expect from a 50-50 fight. I also kovalev was going to win and as the rounds progress andre was making a comeback after the knockout, but there was the occasional jabs from kovalev which made you think, damn he's taking the round back from ward. very close.

ye, i like the commentary of paulie and his expertise in boxing.
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/