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again, zion:



from an interview with the photographer who took that shot:

I tweet during timeouts, so I was kinda going through the stuff on the camera and looking, and I just zoomed in to see how sharp it was, because there was good action in the frame,” Kamenish said. “And I was like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’ And I showed it to the guy next to me, a seasoned basketball player back in his day, he’s like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’

again, zion:



from an interview with the photographer who took that shot:

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I tweet during timeouts, so I was kinda going through the stuff on the camera and looking, and I just zoomed in to see how sharp it was, because there was good action in the frame,” Kamenish said. “And I was like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’ And I showed it to the guy next to me, a seasoned basketball player back in his day, he’s like, ‘Oh god, look at that.’

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Quote from: fast does lie on February 12, 2019, 10:11:13 pm

Duke could beat any NBA team thats having a bad day.... FACT.

If Duke played the Cavs tomorrow, Cavs would win by 50pts and Kevin Love would break Wilt's single game points record.

In 2002 the Sturt Sabres (local amateur basketball club playing in the ABL team equivalent to a Big V Team) played the Arizona Wildcats who made the Final Four of the NCAA National Championships in 2001. Arizona won 109-98 over Sturt in 2002 featuring future-NBA players in Channing Frye, Luke Walton, Will Bynum & Salim Stoudamire. I saw that game in person because it was held at the Pasadena basketball stadium and I was playing for Sturt in U14's at the time.

If a top NCAA team beats an amateur Australian team by 11 points they would get thrashed by an NBL team, let alone a team from the NBA!

case in point: cleveland's bench now includes nik stauskas, who was the big ten player of the year and a consensus all-american but is barely a replacement-level pro.

i stand by my claim. come on now u guys train u guys know #1 in the world vs #500 player..... barely has much of a disparity.... its just how elite players are....

I feel what you are saying. That difference is indeed very small  when a.... mortal observes it. But when normalized at their level, which is the necessary to asses them, the difference is chaotic.
I'll use a sprinting analogy: Think of Bolt and someone dropping consistent sub 10s at tournaments, but never below 9.9s. What is their difference when we look at them? Minimal, they are both inhuman fast and beasty. But at their level, the difference is humongous, Bolt won't even notice the 9.9x guy exists. Basketball is not that simple as sprinting, but the analogy stands.

PS : In my sprint example used . 9.9x is top 100, not 500 ( https://www.iaaf.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/men/senior ). #500 best time ever is 10.14. Think Bolt/Gatlin/Gay/Powell/Blake, whoever you want, vs a guy with 10.14 PB. That is what #1 vs #500 in world class athletics is.

In any sport, #1 vs #500 live in different universes.

yeah the NBA is almost by definition the top ~400 players in the world, minus a couple in college who belong in the pros and a few overseas. duke has 3-4 of those top 400, probably a few in the 400-600 range. but the rest of the team is more like top 1200 or something. jack white, an australian junior who might get drafted in the second round and bump along in the g-league for a while or go play in europe, is getting 20+ minutes and started three games. he would get murdered by any even below-replacement-level NBA forward.

We see it all the time; a #1 ranked team get taken down by unranked team with players unranked, happens at every level of bball. this is where bball differs from ind sports like track n field, cause a motivated team with great chemistry can easily take down a disgruntled team with all allstars......

i stand by my point that a tough ncaa team can take down an nba team...... not that unlikely imo.

no matter how disgruntled they are, they wouldn't want to lose to an ncaa team. they'd destroy those poor kids.