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The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« on: April 04, 2012, 01:44:02 pm »
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 02:48:55 pm »
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you wrote an article?
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 03:02:45 pm »
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Yeah, why? You don't think I'm capable or what?
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 03:22:51 pm »
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I already talked about how flawed your whole situation is in the other thread. Squat is only one measure of strength. Some people are better squatters than others but that doesn't mean they are stronger. You squat to get stronger, not necessarily to measure your strength against others. Powerlifting has as much to do with technique/neural adaptations as it does strength.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 03:25:48 pm »
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Except here I was comparing one guy with himself.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 03:33:36 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on April 04, 2012, 03:25:48 pm
Except here I was comparing one guy with himself.

No, because if the guy actually weighed 50 pounds more and only squatted 100 more, then it's not possibly the same guy.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 04:04:33 pm »
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kind of scary that people will read articles about vertical jumping from a guy in his 20s that trains consistently yet still only has maybe a 30in vertical.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 04:08:04 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on April 04, 2012, 03:02:45 pm
Yeah, why? You don't think I'm capable or what?

no, just surprised for some reason. don't ask me why.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 04:28:14 pm »
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Quote from: TheSituation on April 04, 2012, 03:22:51 pm
I already talked about how flawed your whole situation is in the other thread. Squat is only one measure of strength. Some people are better squatters than others but that doesn't mean they are stronger. You squat to get stronger, not necessarily to measure your strength against others. Powerlifting has as much to do with technique/neural adaptations as it does strength.


 That gets to the root of the issue, using the squat as an imaginary vertec, ESPECIALLY with single leg jumps.  Some get a decent correlation with 2 leg jumps, youre training the same muscle groups in a very similar movement pattern, not the case with one leg jumping.

  Calf strength is important, for every athlete, so good to see that in there. 
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 05:16:59 pm »
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You know what people? You can fuck off. It's great that you have so many positive contributions to the athletic world though, not like me.

And chrisbro, how do you know how much I jump and with what background I started? If I naturally jump 50 inches staying with the hand in my butt, I can say anything I want and you'll believe me? "Wow, this guy jumps 50 inches, he must know what he's talking about!".

My IQ just got lower reading through this thread. So go fuck off. I'd say going from 20 to 36 inches off two feet is a pretty good improvement in my VJ in about 2 years and a half. But whatever, go fuck yourselves.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 05:24:31 pm »
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Quote from: chrisbro1 on April 04, 2012, 04:04:33 pm
kind of scary that people will read articles about vertical jumping from a guy in his 20s that trains consistently yet still only has maybe a 30in vertical.

So you would rather listen to someone like Air Up There who has like ~50inch vertical than Raptor who has a vertical in 'only' the high 30's?

Don't you realize this means you'll listen to AUT, who was born with his great hops through great genetics, and you'll just end up doing ab work 24/7?

Unlike Raptor, who was born with weak hops and bad jumping genetics, but improved it substantially over time. 

This reminds me of noob lifters.  "He has to know what he's talking about, cause he's RIPPED"
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 05:36:04 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on April 04, 2012, 05:16:59 pm
You know what people? You can fuck off. It's great that you have so many positive contributions to the athletic world though, not like me.

And chrisbro, how do you know how much I jump and with what background I started? If I naturally jump 50 inches staying with the hand in my butt, I can say anything I want and you'll believe me? "Wow, this guy jumps 50 inches, he must know what he's talking about!".

My IQ just got lower reading through this thread. So go fuck off. I'd say going from 20 to 36 inches off two feet is a pretty good improvement in my VJ in about 2 years and a half. But whatever, go fuck yourselves.

 Not everyone is attacking you dude, a point that jc made is very relevant in many of the other threads on here, there are at least 2 people saying "yea my squat went up to xxx and I still only jump xxx OFF ONE LEG".   That didnt have anything against your article.

 Calm down dude, tell the people directly that insulted you to fuck off, not everyone is.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 05:40:19 pm »
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They know who I'm referring to. I'm not talking about everybody. But if you're to comment on something, how about saying something useful instead of bullshitting around (obviously I'm not talking to you).

You have an opinion and you'd like to share it? Do so. That's what a forum is all about. But to come around saying stuff like "you wrote an article" and "you jump 30 inches" and shit like that - that's not cool.
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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 05:42:51 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on April 04, 2012, 05:40:19 pm
But to come around saying stuff like "you wrote an article" and "you jump 30 inches" and shit like that - that's not cool.

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Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 05:43:16 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on April 04, 2012, 05:16:59 pm
You know what people? You can fuck off. It's great that you have so many positive contributions to the athletic world though, not like me.

And chrisbro, how do you know how much I jump and with what background I started? If I naturally jump 50 inches staying with the hand in my butt, I can say anything I want and you'll believe me? "Wow, this guy jumps 50 inches, he must know what he's talking about!".

My IQ just got lower reading through this thread. So go fuck off. I'd say going from 20 to 36 inches off two feet is a pretty good improvement in my VJ in about 2 years and a half. But whatever, go fuck yourselves.

Didn't you used to claim you jumped 40 inches?

I'm not attacking you either, I'm just saying stop using irrelevant impossible situations. I only see one guy attacking you in this thread.
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