Author Topic: Really Good Video - Common Vertical Jump Training Errors (Read 10590 times)

Harvey · « **on:** April 03, 2012, 05:53:05 am »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy1lsMTxPlU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy1lsMTxPlU</a>

scoobychau · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2012, 02:47:39 am »

thanks for posting this

vag · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2012, 04:45:49 am »

1) Press play
2) Watch first seconds of the video , see "not enough time spent on vertical jump technique"
3) Stop watching worthless video.

Now besides irony, if anyone really wants to know what are the biggest mistakes in vert training , this is the article:

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/vjmistakes.html

And right after , you will be asking "ok , so what should i do?"

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/verticaljumpfaq.html

/thread

Harvey · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2012, 08:10:33 am »

Quote from: vag on April 05, 2012, 04:45:49 am

1) Press play
2) Watch first seconds of the video , see "not enough time spent on vertical jump technique"
3) Stope watching worthless video.

Now besides irony, if anyone really wants to know what are the biggest mistakes in vert training , this is the article:

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/vjmistakes.html

And right after , you will be asking "ok , so what should i do?"

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/verticaljumpfaq.html

/thread

You would be surprised how many people don't know how to jump. People who've played basketball for years think they know what they're doing when they have no biomechanical insight to the jump. Get over yourself.

vag · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2012, 08:39:11 am »

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:10:33 am

You would be surprised how many people don't know how to jump. People who've played basketball for years think they know what they're doing when they have no biomechanical insight to the jump. Get over yourself.

This whole 'vertical jump technique' mania is the latest marketing discovery of the vertical jump training industry.
It works awesome for pussies and silly kids , why kill yourself under a squat rack? Who sais so, Verkoshansky and Baggett? They didn't know the super duper secretz for exploziv vertz gainz! Learn correct form and gain instant inchez , Adam Lickmyboner promises it does!!! This cool dude from his couch does too!!! Thats so cool!

inb4:

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 05, 2012, 02:43:54 am

Its a good idea for you to stop talking so much and read more, train for a few years. Even complete a program or two. Then come around and hash out all this knowledge you have.

Harvey · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2012, 08:47:09 am »

Quote from: vag on April 05, 2012, 08:39:11 am

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:10:33 am
You would be surprised how many people don't know how to jump. People who've played basketball for years think they know what they're doing when they have no biomechanical insight to the jump. Get over yourself.

This whole 'vertical jump technique' mania is the latest marketing discovery of the vertical jump training industry.
It works awesome for pussies and silly kids , why kill yourself under a squat rack? Who sais so, Verkoshansky and Baggett? They didn't know the super duper secretz for exploziv vertz gainz! Learn correct form and gain instant inchez , Adam Lickmyboner promises it does!!! This cool dude from his couch does too!!! Thats so cool!

inb4:
Quote from: LanceSTS on April 05, 2012, 02:43:54 am

Its a good idea for you to stop talking so much and read more, train for a few years. Even complete a program or two. Then come around and hash out all this knowledge you have.

That didn't contradict anything I said? You're trying to prove me wrong by changing the subject lol? Seriously though, the biggest thing I see with jumping athletes who might not be up to scratch as far as technique goes is that they spend too much time on the ground on the final step. People need to undertstand that it has to be a quick motion.

Also, the planting of feet - a lot of basketballers have a tendency to plant one foot then the other in a very non-explosive manner. The feet should almost touch the ground at the same time.

vag · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2012, 09:12:31 am »

In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.

Edit:
Decided to spice it up a little:

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:47:09 am

Also, the planting of feet - a lot of basketballers have a tendency to plant one foot then the other in a very non-explosive manner. The feet should almost touch the ground at the same time.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6aozoz6Zu4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6aozoz6Zu4</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q</a>

woot!

Raptor · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2012, 09:31:33 am »

Yeah all those issues that ball players have technically are due to either:

1) Lack of strength in the proper places to "look" and "act" good on their run-up/plants
or
2) Lack of practice
Sometimes there's a 3rd:
3) Bad structure for that particular jumping method. But truth be told, you're going to have a bad structure if SOMEONE tells you to jump differently (say a two footed jumper meets someone who tells him to jump off one leg and he sucks - that could be a structure problem but MOST LIKELY it's a lack of practice and lack of strength in the proper places).

When I started to jump 12 years ago after doing no kind of sports up until that point (up until being 15 years old) - obviously I was completely uncoordinated and had a 12 inch jump. But over time I'd say my jump technique got pretty good just by jumping day in and day out to the rim. I had no understanding whatsoever of training/techique or anything like that, just jump.

J-DUB · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2012, 06:08:35 pm »

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 03, 2012, 05:53:05 am

you r YOKED, u do smolov?????

Harvey · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2012, 08:14:01 pm »

Quote

In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.

Of course you shouldn't spend copious amounts of time re-analysing how you jump, but if it's a dodgy looking jump, it needs to be fixed. For example, when testing spike reach at the academy, an athlete touched 3.30m. When our strength coach said to change how he locked off with his left foot for to accelerate upwards (for the vertec), he was able to get to 3.33m. It's small stuff that CAN make a difference.

J-DUB · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:49:01 pm »

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:14:01 pm

Quote
In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.

Of course you shouldn't spend copious amounts of time re-analysing how you jump, but if it's a dodgy looking jump, it needs to be fixed. For example, when testing spike reach at the academy, an athlete touched 3.30m. When our strength coach said to change how he locked off with his left foot for to accelerate upwards (for the vertec), he was able to get to 3.33m. It's small stuff that CAN make a difference.

Harvey · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2012, 03:57:53 am »

Quote from: J-DUB on April 05, 2012, 10:49:01 pm

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:14:01 pm
Quote
In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.

Of course you shouldn't spend copious amounts of time re-analysing how you jump, but if it's a dodgy looking jump, it needs to be fixed. For example, when testing spike reach at the academy, an athlete touched 3.30m. When our strength coach said to change how he locked off with his left foot for to accelerate upwards (for the vertec), he was able to get to 3.33m. It's small stuff that CAN make a difference.

You talk a lot of shit for someone who squats 115.

J-DUB · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2012, 08:58:10 am »

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 06, 2012, 03:57:53 am

Quote from: J-DUB on April 05, 2012, 10:49:01 pm
Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:14:01 pm
Quote
In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.

Of course you shouldn't spend copious amounts of time re-analysing how you jump, but if it's a dodgy looking jump, it needs to be fixed. For example, when testing spike reach at the academy, an athlete touched 3.30m. When our strength coach said to change how he locked off with his left foot for to accelerate upwards (for the vertec), he was able to get to 3.33m. It's small stuff that CAN make a difference.

You talk a lot of shit for someone who squats 115.

r u a shemale?

Harvey · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2012, 09:06:38 am »

You're not funny.

J-DUB · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2012, 09:13:13 am »

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 06, 2012, 09:06:38 am

You're not funny.

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