Author Topic: Manthropology: The Science of Why Modern Man is Not What He Used to Be  (Read 9150 times)

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http://us.macmillan.com/BookCustomPage_New.aspx?isbn=9780312555436

Basically the author proposes that modern men are weak and physically inferior to our ancestors of the past. It's a long read but it's good. Some of the author's claims are questionable (e.g apparently there were australian aboriginals who had the potential to be faster than usain bolt) but overall it seems to make sense.

This is the part about australian aboriginals.

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So i think the author is saying the average male today is weaker than the past because of a mix of genetics and laziness. Than he proposes that part of the reason why the general genetic pool throughout the world is weakening is because of how the modern day world is run.

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« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 03:19:51 pm by Mutumbo000 »
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Re: Manthropology: The Science of Why Modern Man is Not What He Used to Be
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 03:58:11 pm »
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Re: Manthropology: The Science of Why Modern Man is Not What He Used to Be
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 04:04:47 pm »
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Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Manthropology: The Science of Why Modern Man is Not What He Used to Be
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 06:13:09 pm »
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
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VO2-max run :4:21
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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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This was one of the best books I read this year. 10,000 Year Explosion is another good one if you want to depress yourself with how pathetic of a race we've become.

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« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 07:27:21 am by Raptor »
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I actually read the article but I have no comments.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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They are just crazy claims to flog a book. The findings are not exactly scientific in any way so it's hard to say it's anything more than an interesting idea. The whole article is mostly based on anecdotes and inferences. Take the footprint thing for example. There are a whole bunch of assumptions in that measurement: they could have been taking longer strides or bounding at that particular time, or the hunter could have been taller than 6'5'' (there is always an error associated with estimating physical dimensions from fossils). Any of which would throw the estimations way out, so it's hard to take his claim that they'd beat Bolt seriously on such little evidence. The historical anecdotes about the rowers could have been wildly exaggerated, there's no way of knowing how fast they really went.

It annoys me too when anthropologists think they are also evolutionary biologists as well and make stupid statements like the one about "highly aggressive men" go to jail or get killed earlier and exclude themselves from the gene pool. That's not an example of a selective pressure. A selective pressure would be if the majority of "highly aggressive men" were wiped out before reaching reproductive age. Then you would definitely see a noticeable change in the gene pool. But I doubt it's the case that the majority of "highly aggressive men" are being killed in gang wars or in Iraq. It's just a vague hypothesis with no evidence to back it up.

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They are just crazy claims to flog a book. The findings are not exactly scientific in any way so it's hard to say it's anything more than an interesting idea. The whole article is mostly based on anecdotes and inferences. Take the footprint thing for example. There are a whole bunch of assumptions in that measurement: they could have been taking longer strides or bounding at that particular time, or the hunter could have been taller than 6'5'' (there is always an error associated with estimating physical dimensions from fossils). Any of which would throw the estimations way out, so it's hard to take his claim that they'd beat Bolt seriously on such little evidence. The historical anecdotes about the rowers could have been wildly exaggerated, there's no way of knowing how fast they really went.

It annoys me too when anthropologists think they are also evolutionary biologists as well and make stupid statements like the one about "highly aggressive men" go to jail or get killed earlier and exclude themselves from the gene pool. That's not an example of a selective pressure. A selective pressure would be if the majority of "highly aggressive men" were wiped out before reaching reproductive age. Then you would definitely see a noticeable change in the gene pool. But I doubt it's the case that the majority of "highly aggressive men" are being killed in gang wars or in Iraq. It's just a vague hypothesis with no evidence to back it up.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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i never believed the argumet that there were people sprinting faster barefoot than anyone does today with spikes on a track. would have to study the footpsrints myself to come to a conclusion

however, there is definitely truth to some ideas. It is true that sperm counts are decreasing, and fertility is lower and lower. The male standards for fertility set by the WHO have also decreased since so many fail to meet the standards. here's a very short documentary on it. linking this entirely to BPA and other endocrine disruptors, it's probably a combinatin of things not all chemicals

http://vimeo.com/15346778
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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I guess they didn't have porn back then
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i never believed the argumet that there were people sprinting faster barefoot than anyone does today with spikes on a track. would have to study the footpsrints myself to come to a conclusion

however, there is definitely truth to some ideas. It is true that sperm counts are decreasing, and fertility is lower and lower. The male standards for fertility set by the WHO have also decreased since so many fail to meet the standards. here's a very short documentary on it. linking this entirely to BPA and other endocrine disruptors, it's probably a combinatin of things not all chemicals

http://vimeo.com/15346778

That's why the world population continues to increase at the highest rate ever (Highest was technically in 1963 but they project it to be higher)

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« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 03:50:59 am by TheSituation »
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i never believed the argumet that there were people sprinting faster barefoot than anyone does today with spikes on a track. would have to study the footpsrints myself to come to a conclusion

however, there is definitely truth to some ideas. It is true that sperm counts are decreasing, and fertility is lower and lower. The male standards for fertility set by the WHO have also decreased since so many fail to meet the standards. here's a very short documentary on it. linking this entirely to BPA and other endocrine disruptors, it's probably a combinatin of things not all chemicals

http://vimeo.com/15346778

That's why the world population continues to increase at the highest rate ever (Highest was technically in 1963 but they project it to be higher)

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Haha, as if that proves anything. got any links? Also this fertility problem is mostly restricted to industrialized nations. Statistics of the whole world do not apply.

ALso the math could get pretty confusing. Even with a decreased fertility rate, you could have an increasing rate of population growth if more people are conceiving even if at lower rates. So what you said does not show anything at all.

Fertility rates are lower than they were in 1960 http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_dyn_tfrt_in&idim=country:USA&dl=en&hl=en&q=fertility+rates

That doesn't indicate lower sperm counts per se, but it's pretty much a fact that sperm counts are decreasing. Most of you probably have lower sperm counts now than your father tdid at the same age.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/out-for-the-count-why-levels-of-sperm-in-men-are-falling-1954149.html
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" Professor Niels Skakkebaek of the University of Copenhagen presented data indicating sperm counts had fallen by about a half over the past 50 years. Sperm counts in the 1940s were typically well above 100m sperm cells per millilitre, but Professor Skakkebaek found they have dropped to an average of about 60m per ml. Other studies found that between 15 and 20 per cent of young men now find themselves with sperm counts of less than 20m per ml, which is technically defined as abnormal."
« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 01:49:22 pm by Avishek »
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf