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Re: People should watch this
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2012, 04:39:54 am »
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Re: People should watch this
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2012, 09:25:29 am »
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Quote from: entropy on July 16, 2012, 04:09:09 am
Quote from: TheSituation on July 15, 2012, 05:22:23 pm
I don't see why you think eating 5000 calories as opposed to 4000 calories will put on more muscle. It doesn't work that way. I am searching for the "studies" but anyone with any knowledge of protein synthesis and muscle hypertrophy should understand this. Your body doesn't "store" calories as muscle, it stores them as fat.

I dunno about studies but when you look at extremely obese people, they might weigh upward of 400 pounds. At that stage, you know while they are very fat, they're also carrying more LBM than the average person. To move 400 pounds from one point to another, takes muscles, and someone obese is actually carrying a fair bit of that stuff.

That happens overtime. Nobody goes from 150 pounds to 400 pounds in a few months, and if they did, they'd have issues walking.
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Re: People should watch this
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2012, 09:54:13 am »
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Nah even 3wks wrks.

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Thirteen adult females and two males were overfed a total of 79-159 MJ (19,000-38,000 kcal) during a 3-week period at the Clinical Research Center, Rochester. The average energy cost of the weight gain was 28 kJ (6.7 kcal)/g, and about half the gain consisted of lean body mass (LBM) as estimated by 40K counting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3479191
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Re: People should watch this
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2012, 11:00:40 am »
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Quote from: entropy on July 16, 2012, 09:54:13 am
Nah even 3wks wrks.

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Thirteen adult females and two males were overfed a total of 79-159 MJ (19,000-38,000 kcal) during a 3-week period at the Clinical Research Center, Rochester. The average energy cost of the weight gain was 28 kJ (6.7 kcal)/g, and about half the gain consisted of lean body mass (LBM) as estimated by 40K counting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3479191

38,000 excess calories is about 11lbs from my math.  I'm sure most people can walk around with 11 extra pounds on and feel okay.  Not only that, but TheSituation was talking about a 250lb gain, which is far greater.  Obviously if the subjects in the study were to be fed enough to gain 250lbs, then less than half would be LBM.  No one can put on over 200lbs and have half of it LBM, not even with illegal pharmaceuticals.
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Re: People should watch this
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2012, 01:36:48 pm »
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Quote from: entropy on July 16, 2012, 09:54:13 am
Nah even 3wks wrks.

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Thirteen adult females and two males were overfed a total of 79-159 MJ (19,000-38,000 kcal) during a 3-week period at the Clinical Research Center, Rochester. The average energy cost of the weight gain was 28 kJ (6.7 kcal)/g, and about half the gain consisted of lean body mass (LBM) as estimated by 40K counting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3479191

Muscle =/= LBM. Try again. If I have a ridiculous amount of carbs and sodium and dense foods and drink a lot of water and never go the bathroom I can increase my LBM by 15 pounds in a day. Does that mean anything? No.
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Re: People should watch this
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2012, 10:39:38 am »
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Quote from: TheSituation on July 16, 2012, 01:36:48 pm
Quote from: entropy on July 16, 2012, 09:54:13 am
Nah even 3wks wrks.

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Thirteen adult females and two males were overfed a total of 79-159 MJ (19,000-38,000 kcal) during a 3-week period at the Clinical Research Center, Rochester. The average energy cost of the weight gain was 28 kJ (6.7 kcal)/g, and about half the gain consisted of lean body mass (LBM) as estimated by 40K counting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3479191

Muscle =/= LBM. Try again. If I have a ridiculous amount of carbs and sodium and dense foods and drink a lot of water and never go the bathroom I can increase my LBM by 15 pounds in a day. Does that mean anything? No.

Well you should tell that to Off The Mark Rippetoe. He think the lean mass gains in his kid were, to quote, "muscular bodyweight". Are you suggesting he doesn't know what he's talking about?
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Re: People should watch this
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2012, 11:07:20 am »
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Quote from: entropy on July 17, 2012, 10:39:38 am


Well you should tell that to Off The Mark Rippetoe. He think the lean mass gains in his kid were, to quote, "muscular bodyweight". Are you suggesting he doesn't know what he's talking about?

i should let jc answer this himself, but, YES.
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