Author Topic: Sprint Videos (Read 117707 times)

Mikey · « **Reply #45 on:** October 14, 2013, 08:35:10 am »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rohudh9LmGw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rohudh9LmGw</a>

Mikey · « **Reply #46 on:** March 17, 2014, 08:37:32 am »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BIcstNfNks" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BIcstNfNks</a>

U20 sprinter Josh Clarke ran a PB of 10.34 to comfortably qualify for World Juniors.

Mikey · « **Reply #47 on:** July 15, 2014, 07:38:32 am »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNdvwbbws6o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNdvwbbws6o</a>

Mikey · « **Reply #48 on:** July 21, 2014, 12:47:35 am »

Carl Lewis Training Video
6x200m in 28 seconds with 90 second recovery
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnOKtw7wf00" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnOKtw7wf00</a>
They make it look so easy.

vag · « **Reply #49 on:** July 21, 2014, 04:24:44 am »

Quote from: Mutumbo000 on July 21, 2014, 12:47:35 am

They make it look so easy.

This, they look, like they are comfortably jogging, dammit!

I was watching the recent diamond league, the 1500m winner did something like 3m:30s.
I am mentioning it here because it made me think of tempos when i watched it, the dude did 15x100m@14 seconds each, without recovery,

Same thing at 800m, time was 1m:42s, so that dude did 8x100m@12,75s

Fucking beasts!!!

seifullaah73 · « **Reply #50 on:** July 21, 2014, 06:16:14 am »

This reminds me of the london 2012 olympics 100m final, where asafa powell strained his groin or hamstring i think during the race half way through and slowed to a limping halt but still finished the race in 11.** seconds. how was he able to jog the rest and still get it under 12 seconds. he would beat a lot of us in that race after injuring himself lol

Mikey · « **Reply #51 on:** July 21, 2014, 08:49:49 am »

Quote from: vag on July 21, 2014, 04:24:44 am

Quote from: Mutumbo000 on July 21, 2014, 12:47:35 am
They make it look so easy.

This, they look, like they are comfortably jogging, dammit!

I was watching the recent diamond league, the 1500m winner did something like 3m:30s.
I am mentioning it here because it made me think of tempos when i watched it, the dude did 15x100m@14 seconds each, without recovery,
Same thing at 800m, time was 1m:42s, so that dude did 8x100m@12,75s
Fucking beasts!!!

Yeah 800m runners are still fast because they need to have a lot of speed reserve in order to be able to sustain that sort of pace for 2 laps.
Most world class 800m runners can all run 400m in sub 48. To be able to run sub 48 you have to be able to sprint 200m in at least high 21s/low 22s. Of course to be able to do that you got to be high 10s/low 11s minimum. These are just conservative numbers the best of the best like Rudisha blow these figures away.

LBSS · « **Reply #52 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:34:24 am »

i may have been feeling like entropy last week, but having just done 4x200m in 29-32 with >2 mins rest, at least i'm not insane enough to compare myself to carl lewis. something to aspire to, in the way that averaging 450 over the course of a 25-match scrabble tournament is something to aspire to.

Mikey · « **Reply #53 on:** July 25, 2014, 02:22:10 am »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx9WBRRkiPA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx9WBRRkiPA</a>

Mikey · « **Reply #54 on:** March 30, 2015, 09:49:49 am »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9ZinQ2kzg8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9ZinQ2kzg8</a>

Fastest time by an Australian in 5 years.
9th Fastest Australian of all time.

LBSS · « **Reply #55 on:** May 04, 2015, 01:06:12 pm »

USA beats Jamaica in 4x100, first time Jamaica has lost that race at WC level since 2007. Ryan Bailey held off Bolt with the anchor leg.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCauFatxg2M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCauFatxg2M</a>

seifullaah73 · « **Reply #56 on:** May 04, 2015, 01:56:56 pm »

Quote from: LBSS on May 04, 2015, 01:06:12 pm

USA beats Jamaica in 4x100, first time Jamaica has lost that race at WC level since 2007. Ryan Bailey held off Bolt with the anchor leg.

I knew jamaica was going to lose if you have nickel ashmede and kemar bailey cole in the 2 and 3 leg and they are up against the giants of sprinting justin gatlin and tyson gay, which gave them a huge lead and ryan baily is fast enough to hold the lead for a while.

usain bolt needs to get into the leg where justin gatlin is so he can give them a lead and then have kemar baily cole and nickel ashmede at the end with the slowest at the last leg.
where was yohan blake.

T0ddday · « **Reply #57 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:15:31 am »

Quote from: Mutumbo000 on July 21, 2014, 08:49:49 am

Yeah 800m runners are still fast because they need to have a lot of speed reserve in order to be able to sustain that sort of pace for 2 laps.
Most world class 800m runners can all run 400m in sub 48. To be able to run sub 48 you have to be able to sprint 200m in at least high 21s/low 22s. Of course to be able to do that you got to be high 10s/low 11s minimum. These are just conservative numbers the best of the best like Rudisha blow these figures away.

Eh... Not really... You would be surprised. For some of them your actually too conservative but your underestimating how different the variance is among sprinters when you say you have to run X to run Y... I had a training partner who was a 51.x 400m hurdler, and had a PR of 47.9 in the open 400m. He was 6'5 about 180 and had a long loping stride and there was no way he could crack 11 seconds in the 100m. He had trouble getting significantly under 12 seconds. His 200m PR was high 22's and in most open 200m he would actually run 23.x despite the fact that I have seen him split 22.8 in the first 200m of the 400m. As sprinters get really really specialized you would be surprised how little general trends hold for them... Additionally, I can look at myself of an example where all the trends break that other way - 6.67 60m, 10 mid in the 100m, 21.9 in the 200m, and 50.0 in the 400m... Some people are good at making speed others excel at holding it...

Mikey · « **Reply #58 on:** November 23, 2015, 07:28:10 am »

Quote from: T0ddday on November 23, 2015, 01:15:31 am

Quote from: Mutumbo000 on July 21, 2014, 08:49:49 am
Yeah 800m runners are still fast because they need to have a lot of speed reserve in order to be able to sustain that sort of pace for 2 laps.
Most world class 800m runners can all run 400m in sub 48. To be able to run sub 48 you have to be able to sprint 200m in at least high 21s/low 22s. Of course to be able to do that you got to be high 10s/low 11s minimum. These are just conservative numbers the best of the best like Rudisha blow these figures away.

Eh... Not really... You would be surprised. For some of them your actually too conservative but your underestimating how different the variance is among sprinters when you say you have to run X to run Y... I had a training partner who was a 51.x 400m hurdler, and had a PR of 47.9 in the open 400m. He was 6'5 about 180 and had a long loping stride and there was no way he could crack 11 seconds in the 100m. He had trouble getting significantly under 12 seconds. His 200m PR was high 22's and in most open 200m he would actually run 23.x despite the fact that I have seen him split 22.8 in the first 200m of the 400m. As sprinters get really really specialized you would be surprised how little general trends hold for them... Additionally, I can look at myself of an example where all the trends break that other way - 6.67 60m, 10 mid in the 100m, 21.9 in the 200m, and 50.0 in the 400m... Some people are good at making speed others excel at holding it...

That's amazing speed endurance!

You've got a good point about people specializing for distances and getting times below the trend.
Looking at my state we've got a few guys who have run 400m in sub 48. The 400/800 runners have 200m PBs in the low/mid 22's and low 11's for 100. My friend Wallace recently ran a 21.59 200m but he's never gone sub 49 despite regularly going sub 22 for the 200m. I know another guy called Michael who's run 21.69 and also 21.70 but he's never gone sub 50 before.

However, I still believe I've got a valid point when it comes to elite/world class sprinters needing a lot of speed reserve. Keeping with my state the 2 best recent 400m sprinters in my state have PBs of 45.62 and 45.95 in the 400m and their 200m PBs were 21.00 and 21.12 respectively. As your friend and the 800m specialists who have also run sub 48 in my state show, you don't need sub 11 speed to run sub 48, but to get to the elite level I still believe you need a lot of speed reserve. The 2 guys who I mentioned with 45.x second times both have 100m PBs in the mid 10s as well. Once again 10.50 for the 45.62 and 10.73 for the 45.95 guy.

T0ddday · « **Reply #59 on:** November 23, 2015, 12:31:52 pm »

I agree that's it's going to be damn near impossible to run 45.x if you can't run sub 11. The 400m has a large enough aerobic component that you can't realistically run your splits from the shorter races...

I also agree that speed reserve is a really important training tool to be aware of - I was disappointed with what Bobby did to Allyson Felix this year in getting her to run the 400m, just completely neglected her 200m speed...

However, the main disagreement that I have with you is that these trends hold true more for the elite world class guys. In my time around the true outliers I realize that they are really the anomalous ones for which we can't make claims about. The toronto raptors basketball team was training in our facility on Saturday - the first thing you notice is not that they are tall but that they all have ridiculously massive wingspans - almost comical. Outliers are strange and they have capacities that don't make sense. There are a bunch of calculators out their that predict times for the 100m, 200m, 400m, based on times for other races... In general they are actually pretty accurate if the athlete is in shape... But they are least accurate for the outlier elite guys. The truly elite guys will have such specialization that the carryover to other really similar events (such as just running a different distance will be less...)

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